I'm REALLY getting annoyed with the left confusing IMMIGRANTS with ILLEGAL ALIENS

[jilla82]

neither, but illegals aren't being encountered on the job market by anyone with ambition. people who bytch about illegal immigration as it affects black people are damning black people to shyt jobs that are of no value to our community. while legal immigrants are being used to take white collar jobs and other jobs of value and have been used to keep blacks out of that marketplace. so if you have a college degree or some trade certification and are unemployed, illegal immigrants aren't your problem, never were and never will be. legal ones are keeping you out, employers value them more.

educated blacks not being able to find work is not the main problem in black communities.
Employers favor white collar immigrants over all Americans because in general they work harder.

Its the under educated blacks that actually need those jobs that normally go to illegals.
A under educated person that just needs a chance is better off starting at a low wage job that they can work their way up in.

 

[hashmander]

for everyone story you can find like that there are 1000 with legal ones and they aren't a story because it's perfectly legal. so if you feel that video is evidence of someone stealing a potential job of an educated natural born citizen then it's even worse in the legal group.

look at the end of the day i don't care either way because i have the skills and i do my own thing. i just don't get the hand wringing over shyt jobs, care about valuable jobs and our govt and employers not caring about the full potential of all its citizens because they have an easy out to go and find replacements elsewhere.

i don't think it's a coincidence that historically there is a strong link between blacks and federal govt jobs and some of the more wealthy black areas are around DC, it's because only US citizens can get those jobs and if they want to hire a green card holder basically no qualified citizen had to have applied for them to get a waiver. the legal immigration system should be like that for everyone, not just the federal govt.

educated blacks not being able to find work is not the main problem in black communities.
Employers favor white collar immigrants over all Americans because in general they work harder.

Its the under educated blacks that actually need those jobs that normally go to illegals.
A under educated person that just needs a chance is better off starting at a low wage job that they can work their way up in.

work your way up? uneducated (that's book or trade) people don't work their way up in america today and haven't for a long time. that's why this minimum wage thing is all the rage because they know they'll be in that shyt job or jobs like that for a long time so their hope is to make that shyt job pay better. their life is shyt job supplemented by govt benefits and that's their future. i feel people like that are written off when they are younger and in school because they are unmotivated and no one is pushing them because they are easily replaced in the economy with educated (again book or trade) legal immigrants. basically legal immigration keeps us stocked with qualified labor and the economy ticking and it's a way to say to those that need extra attention "oh ok you don't get it right away, fukk you then." if they didn't have that easy out i guarantee you they would put more effort into extracting every bit of potential out of our kids. but we can brain drain the world to prosperity and tell our lower classes: "tough shyt, we don't need you."

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

for everyone story you can find like that there are 1000 with legal ones and they aren't a story because it's perfectly legal. so if you feel that video is evidence of someone stealing a potential job of an educated natural born citizen then it's even worse in the legal group.

look at the end of the day i don't care either way because i have the skills and i do my own thing. i just don't get the hand wringing over shyt jobs, care about valuable jobs and our govt and employers not caring about the full potential of all its citizens because they have an easy out to go and find replacements elsewhere.

i don't think it's a coincidence that historically there is a strong link between blacks and federal govt jobs and some of the more wealthy black areas are around DC, it's because only US citizens can get those jobs and if they want to hire a green card holder basically no qualified citizen had to have applied for them to get a waiver. the legal immigration system should be like that for everyone, not just the federal govt.


work your way up? uneducated (that's book or trade) people don't work their way up in america today and haven't for a long time. that's why this minimum wage thing is all the rage because they know they'll be in that shyt job or jobs like that for a long time so their hope is to make that shyt job pay better. their life is shyt job supplemented by govt benefits and that's their future. i feel people like that are written off when they are younger and in school because they are unmotivated and no one is pushing them because they are easily replaced in the economy with educated (again book or trade) legal immigrants. basically legal immigration keeps us stocked with qualified labor and the economy ticking and it's a way to say to those that need extra attention "oh ok you don't get it right away, fukk you then." if they didn't have that easy out i guarantee you they would put more effort into extracting every bit of potential out of our kids. but we can brain drain the world to prosperity and tell our lower classes: "tough shyt, we don't need you."

ok. fukk border control is what you're saying.


If these people showed up in airports without passports, you wouldn't let them through.

If they walk over, you don't car.e

Got it.

 

[jilla82]

work your way up? uneducated (that's book or trade) people don't work their way up in america today and haven't for a long time. that's why this minimum wage thing is all the rage because they know they'll be in that shyt job or jobs like that for a long time so their hope is to make that shyt job pay better. their life is shyt job supplemented by govt benefits and that's their future. i feel people like that are written off when they are younger and in school because they are unmotivated and no one is pushing them because they are easily replaced in the economy with educated (again book or trade) legal immigrants. basically legal immigration keeps us stocked with qualified labor and the economy ticking and it's a way to say to those that need extra attention "oh ok you don't get it right away, fukk you then." if they didn't have that easy out i guarantee you they would put more effort into extracting every bit of potential out of our kids. but we can brain drain the world to prosperity and tell our lower classes: "tough shyt, we don't need you."

This is very untrue.
Most people are caught in the average trap...and then wonder why their life isnt changing.

Most people I know are either self employed, business owners, or in sales.
I can tell you from personal experience that they are all looking for highly motivated people that work hard and push.
Most people just arent like that.
Most people want to work a 9 to 5 and relax on the weekends.
Thats fine if thats all you want in life...but people who want to be rich put in the hours...and are focused on self improvement.

You dont need a college education...you just need drive & ambition.
You need to work on increasing your worth everyday.

The life you have is the result of what goes on in your brain.

For example...
How to find a job...

Most people look for a job by sending their resume out and hoping they get a call back...thats lazy average shyt.

First you need to pick a handful of places you want to work at.
Find out who the decision makers are (not HR)...and then find a way to get in front of them.
Call them...find out where they eat lunch...let them know you exist and are ready to work your ass off...sell yourself!!

You see a difference between the two?
Its all in how you attack life and see the world.

The reason people dont see eye to eye with the minimum wage thing is because the people who dont believe in raising the minimum wage look at it like this...

People against raising the minimum wage believe in order to make more money, you have to raise your worth. You can raise your worth in many ways, not just a college education.
They think all you need is the ambition to want more in life.

The other side of the coin is people who believe every person...no matter how few skills they have, deserve a certain amount of money.
They tend to be people like you who think the system is fixed, and that some people, no matter what, will be stuck where they are in life.

 

[hashmander]

This is very untrue.
Most people are caught in the average trap...and then wonder why their life isnt changing.

Most people I know are either self employed, business owners, or in sales.
I can tell you from personal experience that they are all looking for highly motivated people that work hard and push.
Most people just arent like that.
Most people want to work a 9 to 5 and relax on the weekends.
Thats fine if thats all you want in life...but people who want to be rich put in the hours...and are focused on self improvement.

You dont need a college education...you just need drive & ambition.
You need to work on increasing your worth everyday.

The life you have is the result of what goes on in your brain.

For example...
How to find a job...

Most people look for a job by sending their resume out and hoping they get a call back...thats lazy average shyt.

First you need to pick a handful of places you want to work at.
Find out who the decision makers are (not HR)...and then find a way to get in front of them.
Call them...find out where they eat lunch...let them know you exist and are ready to work your ass off...sell yourself!!

You see a difference between the two?
Its all in how you attack life and see the world.

i didn't say just a college education. i said education whether it's book or trade. i don't see how people who lack skills are going to work their way up in this environment (and the ability to communicate effectively and sell is a skill). i honestly don't see what the rest has to do with this topic. maybe it's an argument for legal immigration in that you're saying the native population doesn't have the characteristics necessary to succeed and that's why they fail. someone could make the same argument for illegal immigration because in both cases a demand is there and being met by these people. my argument is eliminate the demand by extracting the potential (whatever it maybe) of your citizenry and stop relying on the crutch that is immigration. it's way too easy for us to write off segments of society.

and it's easy to solve illegal immigration at the employer level. just like you don't have issues with legal or illegal immigrants being hired by the federal govt in any noteworthy numbers, the same could apply for the private sector.

 

[L0Qutus]

I told you this is about VOTES and CHEAP LABOR:

 

[jilla82]

i didn't say just a college education. i said education whether it's book or trade. i don't see how people who lack skills are going to work their way up in this environment (and the ability to communicate effectively and sell is a skill). i honestly don't see what the rest has to do with this topic. maybe it's an argument for legal immigration in that you're saying the native population doesn't have the characteristics necessary to succeed and that's why they fail. someone could make the same argument for illegal immigration because in both cases a demand is there and being met by these people. my argument is eliminate the demand by extracting the potential (whatever it maybe) of your citizenry and stop relying on the crutch that is immigration. it's way too easy for us to write off segments of society.

and it's easy to solve illegal immigration at the employer level. just like you don't have issues with legal or illegal immigrants being hired by the federal govt in any noteworthy numbers, the same could apply for the private sector.

yea...my point is that the native population that needs to get ahead in the worst way (blacks) are sold the victim card by politicians, and power/money hungry black people (Tariq and the rest of the "Pro black" crew) who use the "Them vs. Us" argument to raise their own profile.

Its no different than what you are seeing w/ Trump and all the right leaning political pundits.
They sell victimhood to their followers in order to gain fame and money.
Its an easy hustle.

What poor americans should be focused on is opportunity and upward movement.
But our politicians keep selling the idea that its not possible because of racism, sexism, immigration, homophobia, etc...

The idea that you cannot rise is simply not true...you just have to want it.

Thats why immigrants do so well in this country.
They dont care about any of that shyt...they just want the money...and will get it by any means.

With that said...I honestly dont give a shyt about illegal/legal immigrants.
Its only natural for people of poor nations to gravitate to wealthier nations.

Thats not to say we should be ignoring issues that come w/ mass immigration.
Such as...

Them taking jobs away
Large pockets of immigrants changing our culture in a negative way
etc...

Black people ignoring the effects of immigration shows that we are just puppets in this political system.
We go w/ whatever the left says, thinking that all of their policy's will help us....thinking that liberal thinking is the only way for our people to have a chance.
(try being black & telling some friends and family that you are right leaning...they wont even be able to comprehend it)

Its a fuking long hustle...and we dont even see it...not even the people that consider themselves "woke"