in 2021 Nas is a far superior emcee to Jay-Z

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Kings Disease is good, there is some real dope moments on more than a few of the songs, but none of them are really due to remarkable rapping. The rapping is good enough, but theres no crazy flows that made me extra hype, no stark poetic imagery, no amazing stories that stick with me, no wild bars to yell out, or quote at all really, its all just good enough. Some grown perspective, some Pro-Black bars, but nothing truly resonant or inspiring in the lyrics department. No cringe bars either tho. Good album. Better than I'd expected to be honest, an improvement from Nasir & Lost Tapes 2.

favorite bar on the album is: "Malcolm X with a check, Closed curtains bytch" good entendre, thats on Dre's verse but I'm fairly sure Nas wrote it. Favorite verses on the album is probably on 'The Cure,' but its more due to the flow, which, again isnt super crazy impressive flow, just good high level shyt.

Kings Disease as a concept seemed to be about the risks of being too well fed, the trappings that come with royalty, not letting that make you unhealthy. Aging gracefully, retaining youth. And so this album proves that he's still in good health, artistically, can still go to the gym, still got it, -- but its not particularly inspired.


Jay & Jay were having a bar fest on Jay Elect's album, way more impressive innovative rapping on that album. But its also a more disappointing uneven album as a whole.
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Kings Disease is good, there is some real dope moments on more than a few of the songs, but none of them are really due to remarkable rapping. The rapping is good enough, but theres no crazy flows that made me extra hype, no stark poetic imagery, no amazing stories that stick with me, no wild bars to yell out, or quote at all really, its all just good enough. Some grown perspective, some Pro-Black bars, but nothing truly resonant or inspiring in the lyrics department. No cringe bars either tho. Good album. Better than I'd expected to be honest, an improvement from Nasir & Lost Tapes 2.

favorite bar on the album is: "Malcolm X with a check, Closed curtains bytch" good entendre, thats on Dre's verse but I'm fairly sure Nas wrote it. Favorite verses on the album is probably on 'The Cure,' but its more due to the flow, which, again isnt super crazy impressive flow, just good high level shyt.

Kings Disease as a concept seemed to be about the risks of being too well fed, the trappings that come with royalty, not letting that make you unhealthy. Aging gracefully, retaining youth. And so this album proves that he's still in good health, artistically, can still go to the gym, still got it, -- but its not particularly inspired.


Jay & Jay were having a bar fest on Jay Elect's album, way more impressive innovative rapping on that album. But its also a more disappointing uneven album as a whole.
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I just re-listended to King Diesase and Nas is still flowing and spitting like he in his 30's. Jay-z's age is far more apparent on that album he did with Jay Electronica, he is still elite but he has lost a few steps. I mean even in their primes Nas was always better, but he is also aging better.

tobe fair.... Jay-z has not dropped a new solo album yet.

to also be fair nas always been better than hov, 2 me.
 

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I think I agree. At the very least I wouldn’t argue here.

I liked Nas’ rhyming on King’s Disease more than Jay’s on Written Testimony.

in general the way that Jay Z was flowing on the blueprint two and the black album was so elite that most of his flows and deliveries after that point I’ve been a step down to me. I love American gangster and 444 but I’m just saying.
 

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What is this based off?
I think the older generation is killing it right now. I mean cats like method man or arguably the sharpest they’ve ever been and are 50+ or close.

I think the skill level in the 40+ year-old crowd right now is really damn high.

In fact I can’t think of a lot of older rappers right now that are embarrassing themselves or sounding trash. I’m wanting to hear more music from the older cats right now than less music.
 

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This is just false. Triple Beam Dreams and all those dope features. Plus LIG came out after Distant Relatives and he clearly rapped better on LIG than on Distant Relatives. And he rapped great on Distant Relatives. I wouldn’t look at Kings Disease lyrically and say it was Nas’ best rapping. I just think he floated on it. But if we talking from a pure lyrical standpoint. Jay went in on A Written Testimony. I think the aims for both projects was completely different. Jay was the best thing about A Written Testimony to me. But I feel that album was some mid. While I think Kings Disease was a dope project.

Some of Nas best lyrical displays have been on features, Kings Disease was more Nas in his storytelling bag.




 

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I still haven't listened to A Written Testimony, but Nas hasn’t fallen off lyrically. King's Disease obviously wasn't his best performance, but that was on purpose. Hit Boy allowed Nas to streamline his writing more so he didn't overthink what he was talking about. Even then, he was still spitting and flowing ("King's Disease," "Blue Benz," "27 Summers," "All Bad," "The Definition," "Full Circle," "10 Points," "The Cure").

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All post DR:wtf:


When anyone says something like that, I assume they haven't listened to Nas at all since the last period in which they say he was rapping well, and if they have listened, they skimmed through his songs.

I bet if you ask him right now, he'll tell you that Distant Relatives was the last Nas album he listened to and he's only heard a couple songs since then.
 
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