In an absolute stunner Josh Allen has been named MVP over Lamar Jackson despite not making All-pro first team (First time since 1987)

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How they voted: Josh Allen wins AP NFL MVP award

Josh Allen beat out two-time winner Lamar Jackson for the Most Valuable Player award in the closest race since Matt Ryan beat out Tom Brady in 2016.
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MVP Voter1st Place2nd Place3rd Place4th Place5th Place
Pat KirwanJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyPatrick MahomesJared Goff
Tom SilversteinLamar JacksonJoe BurrowJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
MIke SandoLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowPatrick MahomesSaquon Barkley
Mike JonesLamar JacksonJosh AllenPatrick MahomesSaquon BarkleyJoe Burrow
Doug FarrarLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyPatrick Mahomes
Armando SalgueroLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJared GoffJoe Burrow
Nate DavisLamar JacksonJosh AllenJared GoffJayden DanielsBaker Mayfield
Charean WilliamsJosh AllenLamar JacksonJared GoffJoe BurrowSaquon Barkley
Rich GannonJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJared Goff
Lindsay JonesJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJared Goff
Mark CraigJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJayden DanielsJared Goff
Jarrett BellLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyPatrick MahomesJoe Burrow
Chris SimmsJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJa’Marr Chase
Laura OkminJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJared Goff
Dan PompeiLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowPatrick MahomesJared Goff
Adam ScheinJosh AllenLamar JacksonJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
Dave BirkettLamar JacksonJosh AllenJared GoffSaquon BarkleyPatrick Mahomes
Vic CarucciJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJared Goff
Lorenzo ReyesLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
Anthony DiGuilioJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJared Goff
Jonathan JonesJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowPatrick Mahomes
Jori EpsteinJosh AllenLamar JacksonJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
Mike FlorioLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJared GoffJoe Burrow
Charles RobinsonJosh AllenLamar JacksonJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyJa’Marr Chase
Michael SilverJosh AllenLamar JacksonJared GoffSaquon BarkleyPatrick Mahomes
Nora PrinciottiJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJustin HerbertJoe Burrow
Mike TiricoLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJared Goff
Pete PriscoJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJared GoffJoe Burrow
Nick PavlatosJosh AllenLamar JacksonJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
Aaron SchatzLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowPatrick MahomesJared Goff
Tony DungyLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJustin HerbertJayden Daniels
Ben VolinJosh AllenLamar JacksonJared GoffSaquon BarkleySam Darnold
Diante LeeLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJustin HerbertJayden Daniels
Reuben FrankLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJared Goff
Jim MillerJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowLamar JacksonPatrick Mahomes
Bruce MurrayJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJared GoffJoe Burrow
Dianna RussiniLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
Kay AdamsLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyPatrick MahomesJoe Burrow
Ira KaufmanJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyPatrick MahomesJoe Burrow
Gary MeyersJosh AllenLamar JacksonJared GoffSaquon BarkleyJoe Burrow
Aditi KinkhabwalaJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJared GoffJoe Burrow
Sam MonsonLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleySam Darnold
Tom BradyLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJa’Marr ChaseJoe Burrow
Tedy BruschiLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJa’Marr ChasePatrick Mahomes
John McMullenJosh AllenLamar JacksonJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleySam Darnold
Greg AumanLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyBaker Mayfield
Mina KimesLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyJayden Daniels
Tom CurranJosh AllenLamar JacksonPatrick MahomesSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
Dan OrlovskyJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyPatrick MahomesJayden Daniels
Emmanuel AchoJosh AllenLamar JacksonPatrick MahomesSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
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Is that the former Bears QB in the bolded letters?

Tom Brady voted for Lamar :myman:
 
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Unbothered said:
It probably has a lot to do with Lamar's Postseason woes; even tho the award is based on the regular season, you can't read what's on the back of the voter's minds. They probably didn't wanna reward Lamar with another MVP because of expectations not being met, although it's not entirely his fault for his team's struggles.

If you don't think the voters subconsciously take that shyt into account, then you're fooling yourself.

Despite being eliminated, Josh's team ended the season on a better term and his Postseason is just slightly better than Lamar's.
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Last year was the year to deny him if you were going to do it. His stats weren't all that great he only had the narrative of him beating all the other candidates H2H / top seed.

Now they're punished him due to "voter fatigue" when he deserves it more. Or holding playoffs against him.

Award loses value the further they dive into narratives
 
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apnews.com

How they voted: Josh Allen wins AP NFL MVP award

Josh Allen beat out two-time winner Lamar Jackson for the Most Valuable Player award in the closest race since Matt Ryan beat out Tom Brady in 2016.
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MVP Voter1st Place2nd Place3rd Place4th Place5th Place
Pat KirwanJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyPatrick MahomesJared Goff
Tom SilversteinLamar JacksonJoe BurrowJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
MIke SandoLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowPatrick MahomesSaquon Barkley
Mike JonesLamar JacksonJosh AllenPatrick MahomesSaquon BarkleyJoe Burrow
Doug FarrarLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyPatrick Mahomes
Armando SalgueroLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJared GoffJoe Burrow
Nate DavisLamar JacksonJosh AllenJared GoffJayden DanielsBaker Mayfield
Charean WilliamsJosh AllenLamar JacksonJared GoffJoe BurrowSaquon Barkley
Rich GannonJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJared Goff
Lindsay JonesJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJared Goff
Mark CraigJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJayden DanielsJared Goff
Jarrett BellLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyPatrick MahomesJoe Burrow
Chris SimmsJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJa’Marr Chase
Laura OkminJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJared Goff
Dan PompeiLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowPatrick MahomesJared Goff
Adam ScheinJosh AllenLamar JacksonJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
Dave BirkettLamar JacksonJosh AllenJared GoffSaquon BarkleyPatrick Mahomes
Vic CarucciJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJared Goff
Lorenzo ReyesLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
Anthony DiGuilioJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJared Goff
Jonathan JonesJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowPatrick Mahomes
Jori EpsteinJosh AllenLamar JacksonJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
Mike FlorioLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJared GoffJoe Burrow
Charles RobinsonJosh AllenLamar JacksonJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyJa’Marr Chase
Michael SilverJosh AllenLamar JacksonJared GoffSaquon BarkleyPatrick Mahomes
Nora PrinciottiJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJustin HerbertJoe Burrow
Mike TiricoLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJared Goff
Pete PriscoJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJared GoffJoe Burrow
Nick PavlatosJosh AllenLamar JacksonJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
Aaron SchatzLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowPatrick MahomesJared Goff
Tony DungyLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJustin HerbertJayden Daniels
Ben VolinJosh AllenLamar JacksonJared GoffSaquon BarkleySam Darnold
Diante LeeLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJustin HerbertJayden Daniels
Reuben FrankLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowJared Goff
Jim MillerJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJoe BurrowLamar JacksonPatrick Mahomes
Bruce MurrayJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJared GoffJoe Burrow
Dianna RussiniLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
Kay AdamsLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyPatrick MahomesJoe Burrow
Ira KaufmanJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyPatrick MahomesJoe Burrow
Gary MeyersJosh AllenLamar JacksonJared GoffSaquon BarkleyJoe Burrow
Aditi KinkhabwalaJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyJared GoffJoe Burrow
Sam MonsonLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleySam Darnold
Tom BradyLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJa’Marr ChaseJoe Burrow
Tedy BruschiLamar JacksonJosh AllenSaquon BarkleyJa’Marr ChasePatrick Mahomes
John McMullenJosh AllenLamar JacksonJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleySam Darnold
Greg AumanLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyBaker Mayfield
Mina KimesLamar JacksonJosh AllenJoe BurrowSaquon BarkleyJayden Daniels
Tom CurranJosh AllenLamar JacksonPatrick MahomesSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
Dan OrlovskyJosh AllenLamar JacksonSaquon BarkleyPatrick MahomesJayden Daniels
Emmanuel AchoJosh AllenLamar JacksonPatrick MahomesSaquon BarkleyJared Goff
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Cac needs his voting rights removed asap
 
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Ravens would be the Tennessee Titans without Lamar just watch em when he’s hurt
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What does that mean? A backup usually doesn't have enough reps or experience to maximize situations.


All things remaing the same. Ravens not falling off with Mahomes or Josh Allen at QB. Hell, CJ Stroud or Jayden Daniels could have been successful with the Ravens. And this year a Joe Burrow leaning on a Derrick Henry would make the playoffs with Ravens.
 
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Unbothered said:
It probably has a lot to do with Lamar's Postseason woes; even tho the award is based on the regular season, you can't read what's on the back of the voter's minds. They probably didn't wanna reward Lamar with another MVP because of expectations not being met, although it's not entirely his fault for his team's struggles.

If you don't think the voters subconsciously take that shyt into account, then you're fooling yourself.

Despite being eliminated, Josh's team ended the season on a better term and his Postseason is just slightly better than Lamar's.
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This is better for Lamar. No one had won more than two MVPs without winning a Super Bowl so no MVP pressure going into next season.

Wanna see that heat for Josh moving forward though:ufdup:
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Red Money said:
What does that mean? A backup usually doesn't have enough reps or experience to maximize situations.


All things remaing the same. Ravens not falling off with Mahomes or Josh Allen at QB. Hell, CJ Stroud or Jayden Daniels could have been successful with the Ravens. And this year a Joe Burrow leaning on a Derrick Henry would make the playoffs with Ravens.
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nikka he the one who said the Bills win 3 wit games without Allen save your paragraph for him
 
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Mantis Toboggan M.D. said:
Allen was 20th in the league in passing yards per game this year. He was 5th in total touchdowns. If his rushing yards counted but no other qb’s rushing yards counted, he’d have been 6th in total yards by a qb this year. 16% of his total touchdowns this year were qb sneaks. Nothing about his season suggested mvp got even a moment to me at any point this year.
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Yes this is typically what happens when you lose your two main offensive weapons and don't replace them with talent, hence why most had bills being the 2 seed in the aff east. Allen had a great season when you considering the weapons he has down the field, he also had the best tov% in nfl history as a qb. On the other side ot the field, his defense was mediocre they were 19th on 3rd downs and just ss bad on 2nds. Either one of them could have one, no one should be mad at either
 
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