In her new memoir Michelle Obama reveals she's hated Trump since his birtherism put her kids at risk

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must have been awkward at the christmas dinners since barrys brother and grandmother also said he was born in kenya oh wait barry doesn't talk to his black family nvm.
 

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No disrespect to Obama (even tho I don't fw him like that no more, and I only semi- fw Michelle at this point), but his presidency* put our kids at risk and we don't have Secret Service.


*Not on purpose, ofc, but it's a commonly known fact of AA history that any gains are quickly followed by violent retribution. Again, not blaming them, just saying, fact. And we were left naked out here.

Your last point is true. It happened in NY with Mayor Dinkins being the first Black Mayor and then racist ass Giuliani following him

Then it repeated in the presidency with Obama and Trump

Even Holder and then Sessions
 

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That implies, does it not, that Obama didn't try to protect black Americans? What specifically would you have him done? Send the national guard to all the southern states for the entirety of his term? What exactly could he have done to ensure the 37 or so million negros in the US weren't victims of some sort of violence? How, politically, would he been able to justify seeking to protect on black people? I'm genuinely asking, but this seems a bit naive to me.
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Lose when you say the word "justify". Shows and Proves the point others are making.... People who Actual Do intend on making a Specific policy or action For a group- dont worry about justifing it. The fact that the action is needed is the justification.

And all the things Obama SHOULD have pushed for were needed.
 

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I like Michelle....But I find it pathetic how she's buddy buddy with Bush when he and his family are responsible for the deaths of many people...And let's not forget about the whole Obama/Hillary Libya fiasco..........Yeah,Trump ain't shyt....but neither are Bush,Hillary and Obama.
 

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Yall

Lose when you say the word "justify". Shows and Proves the point others are making.... People who Actual Do intend on making a Specific policy or action For a group- dont worry about justifing it. The fact that the action is needed is the justification.

And all the things Obama SHOULD have pushed for were needed.

Nonsense. Of course they do... It's why we have these things called 'campaigns' and 'debates'... politicians make arguments for why certain policies should be enacted and why you should vote for them. They attempt to justify their platform. What policy for a specific group are you thinking of which legislators make no attempt to justify to their constituents?
 

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Did Michelle forget it was Hillary's campaign who started the birther issue?

All Trump did was use the issue to test his $support
 

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Nonsense. Of course they do... It's why we have these things called 'campaigns' and 'debates'... politicians make arguments for why certain policies should be enacted and why you should vote for them. They attempt to justify their platform. What policy for a specific group are you thinking of which legislators make no attempt to justify to their constituents?
We all can name a million things Bush obama and clinton did that was not popular with their base or the nation.

Obama passing all this SPECIFIC gay legislation.... Cool, but most black families in Amerika cant say he did any thing Specifically for poor AAs who out number gays.

Trump doesnt all sorts of shyt and says things that he doesnt justify.
The only time i seen Bush "justify" or make excuses is when he didnt wanna do something - he'd blame the lawmakers or media.


WHO would have gotten upset in Obamas base had he made tax breaks and criminal justice laws specifically Targeted at AADOS??
 

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We all can name a million things Bush obama and clinton did that was not popular with their base or the nation.

So what? That wasn't my question.

Obama passing all this SPECIFIC gay legislation.... Cool, but most black families in Amerika cant say he did any thing Specifically for poor AAs who out number gays.

Your original claim was that policy makers are writing/passing legislation without making any attempts to justify why. Are you deaf or just ignored every time Obama made a case for supporting civil unions and later gay marriage? Stop moving goal posts.

Not to mention, a lot of the things Obama supported were intended to help the poor -- and isn't it interesting that African Americans also happen to be disproportionally poorer than other racial groups? Increasing unemployment benefits, SNAP benefits, the ACA, job training programs, etc. He may not have ever directly said it was done specifically to help AA's, but do you think it's mere coincidence he wanted to focus on improving these programs? If black families can't say he did anything for them, that only shows their ignorance in how the "sausage gets made" in D.C.

Trump doesnt all sorts of shyt and says things that he doesnt justify.
The only time i seen Bush "justify" or make excuses is when he didnt wanna do something - he'd blame the lawmakers or media.


WHO would have gotten upset in Obamas base had he made tax breaks and criminal justice laws specifically Targeted at AADOS??

Such as? I'd agree that Trump makes up untrue shyt all the time, but that's not the same as him putting forth or passing legislation to benefit a specific racial group without attempting to justify why.
 

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So what? That wasn't my question.



Your original claim was that policy makers are writing/passing legislation without making any attempts to justify why. Are you deaf or just ignored every time Obama made a case for supporting civil unions and later gay marriage? Stop moving goal posts.

Not to mention, a lot of the things Obama supported were intended to help the poor -- and isn't it interesting that African Americans also happen to be disproportionally poorer than other racial groups? Increasing unemployment benefits, SNAP benefits, the ACA, job training programs, etc. He may not have ever directly said it was done specifically to help AA's, but do you think it's mere coincidence he wanted to focus on improving these programs? If black families can't say he did anything for them, that only shows their ignorance in how the "sausage gets made" in D.C.



Such as? I'd agree that Trump makes up untrue shyt all the time, but that's not the same as him putting forth or passing legislation to benefit a specific racial group without attempting to justify why.
You're right,

Obama made speech after speech about Specific laws and actions needs For Gays. He didn't leave anything to the imagination on How Sausage gets made.... He didn't make push some Random legislation that was supposed to help Gays through happenstance or because they are the most fukked up- He Specifically made it about them in law..... But (more importantly) in media and speech and in the minds of America.

Silent many the times and chances he could have spoke on police violence and issues that do effect us more. It was gross and obvious.

I don't hate Obama for all that , Im just saying its just what it is.

And the greater point is the black groups need to demand that our issues are addressed specifically..... Sorta like how immigration is being done now. Or how jews are doing. Liberals dont want to speak at the Womans march because they support Farrakhan, yet, The clintons are still pushed by dems whose policies helped cripple our communities through the justice system.
 

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Your last point is true. It happened in NY with Mayor Dinkins being the first Black Mayor and then racist ass Giuliani following him

Then it repeated in the presidency with Obama and Trump

Even Holder and then Sessions
TY! Dap + rep! I actually met former Mayor Dinkins once and we talked about it. He said he wasn't expecting the backlash to be so bad, but he had enough sense to expect it in the first place.

I know yall don't know me but I'm not throwing bombs just to throw them. That ain't me. I'm talking real shyt. Literally as soon as Obama got in, the Southern Poverty Law Center started reporting crazy numbers of new white supremacist recruits. Do we think they were meeting for tea? No, they were planning shyt and fomenting shyt and then whichever cops were down with them started implementing shyt. (If you wanna know who those cops were, look up the Oathkeepers.)
There's all this talk about moving smarter, being on code and shyt, but that's impossible when ppl refuse to look at history and plan ahead. Wtf yall on? :wtb:
 

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TY! Dap + rep! I actually met former Mayor Dinkins once and we talked about it. He said he wasn't expecting the backlash to be so bad, but he had enough sense to expect it in the first place.

I know yall don't know me but I'm not throwing bombs just to throw them. That ain't me. I'm talking real shyt. Literally as soon as Obama got in, the Southern Poverty Law Center started reporting crazy numbers of new white supremacist recruits. Do we think they were meeting for tea? No, they were planning shyt and fomenting shyt and then whichever cops were down with them started implementing shyt. (If you wanna know who those cops were, look up the Oathkeepers.)
There's all this talk about moving smarter, being on code and shyt, but that's impossible when ppl refuse to look at history and plan ahead. Wtf yall on? :wtb:

Yeah its a blur but i can remember all of that after Obama won. Didn't st0rmfr0nt crash too or something? It seems wild but the racist ass tea party first came into the national conversation 8 years ago... :wow: seems like such a lifetime ago and who would have expected then that Trump would be the President :dead:

Obama and Trump were both such polarizing figures back to back. Both super famous for different reasons that i wonder who will follow next. Like how do you get just as famous or infamous as them? They gotta be running out of ideas by now. You got the ones like Trump or Bush who get "infamous"/"notorious across the world for different reasons. Bush cause of the 911, Iraq War and his war crimes and Afghanistan. Trump because of what he said about Mexicans, Muslims and everyone else. Then you had Clinton be famous because of the dot com bubble with being the face of America around the world for the great american economy and then later on the Lewinsky trial. Obama being the first Black President....

I could say though that someone like a Reagan is probably more well known domestically over here

But :jbhmm: I wonder what the story or drama will be with this next person in 2024

Ok fukk it... :francis: i have a theory that if not Ivanka, the successor will be a white conservative female who has a new war to replace the War on Drugs/War on Terrorism/War on Immigration....War on Sex.......Black men will be the victims from pimping/pandering charges ...yes this is already kind of happening but its a preview. But i believe if Trump doesn't focus on that in his 2nd term the successor will....more irony will be talked about on how its a woman going the hardest on the issue.

If there wasn't the Mueller investigation i would be more confident in saying this would be Ivanka. The country used their openly racist bigot in Donald and now will use the daughter to have an easier time fooling people into thinking she is not as ruthless
 
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