Incel/Femcel Solutions
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Thats what i mean bomie rather be a thought leader among incels than get a GF. Homie says hes a tall Black IT guy in the UK. Dude has a good sense of humor, you think this guy is being curved by everyone over there?
Dude is probably slaying in real life. All the incels that do show their faces eventually "ascend" once they go viral. Clout is catnip to hoes.
As screwed up as our education system is, I don’t blame you for having skepticism.But I think the lack of focus on social skills and character building is part of the reason why our schools suck. The curriculum has been stripped of any meaningful instruction or authentic learning experiences and replaced with kill and drill worksheets and testing to line the pockets of big businesses.
In the past, a lot of character lessons were embedded in our education. Literature and books studies were linked to moral issues, personality traits, decision making. We had character 101 classes and all of that was related to sex education, making good choices, how to interact with peers, the opposite sex, peer mediation. Our guidance counselors would do monthly lessons on being respectful to one another in facilitating relationships, understanding compromise and integrity in dealing with others. But a lot of those lessons were funded by grant based programs to facilitate socio-emotional learning. Now they don’t touch on ANY of that in schools at a time when kids are the MOST vulnerable in the digital age and decreased interaction with parents, and support systems.
These problems won’t go away because they are linked to larger social issues. When you have large numbers of unhappy youth, it doesn’t bode well for society because the infrastructures we take for granted are supported low-key by those individuals...
Or maybe I’m making too big of a deal out of this.
Yeah, the social anxieties these types experience transcend body types, although taking care of yourself can definitely help. Regardless, I’ve known dudes who get in shape and get money and STILL can’t make a meaningful connection with a female. In fact, they will get angry if a chick ends of liking a dad bod dude over him.
There’s some illusive quality they keep missing about their personality that makes others uncomfortable.
The videos about the friends of incels breaking down their problems were most insightful about some of these issues.
One guy said his friend looked fine and was actually a cool dude, but he would constantly be a yes man to girls hoping that doing things would translate to attraction. Then he’d get angry if it didn’t work.
One guy said he considered women to be slot machines and if he put enough nice tokens into them, he should get a prize. One femcel chick mentioned having similar perspectives.
I think they are illuminating some fundamental misunderstandings about human interaction.
Yeah I think there are things people can do to compensate for looks within reason. I also think this culture of judging people numerically based solely on looks compounds a lot of social anxieties and creates many of these issues. Because there are so many unquantifiable aspects to attraction that get obscured by trying to distill it down to a 1-10 scale. You miss a lot of people’s appeal by not being willing to see how they are in their own zones.
Could you explain a bit more?
Yeah, I used to take a couple of classes that were crosslisted with economics and sociology. It was fascinating for them to breakdown the idea that we have to constantly convince losers to buy into the system so those at the top can maintain their quality of life. There’s more but I don’t remember a lot of it. Has a lotta implications for society which is why I think this is important.
Very cool! From a behavioral analyst perspective, I’ve seen social skills training and applied behavior analysis work WONDERS in the lives of children and adults with socio-emotional, behavioral and communicative deficits. In absence of a societal emphasis on this type of training we see more and more in need of it.Thread reminds me of the Netflix show "Love on the spectrum" which is about autistic ppl of both genders dating one another, love that show
Show technically has both incels and femcels but their more upbeat about it and try to improve their social skills. It's a great show, y'all should check it out
I don’t want to call em losers...(I may have in the past) but I see this population increasing in the future so they need to be addressed.
This is the “second son” phenomenon of our time. Referring to second son being the one in the past who didn’t have an inheritance so he went to other countries screwing people over and colonizing others or resorted to crime.
There has to be a place for everyone in society or it’s going to boil over into chaos.
Or not and I’m just being too dramatic.
I don’t think so. I think this female curbing phenomenon is overrated.
Did you watch the video of the friends of incels and what they said were these types problems?
Majority listed having unreasonable expectations in the opposite sex while being unwilling to improve themselves as major reasons why they were alone.
I see that as a major problem with these types of men and women who have social anxieties. They hide behind a huge wall of nearly insurmountable standards (elbows too pointy) to avoid confronting personality issues that might make them unattractive to the opposite sex. So the issue becomes about others instead of what they need to work on in themselves.
The other extreme in this group is being willing to be with anyone and/or being extra thirsty which is also off putting because it gives people the vibe that you don’t care about them as individuals. You just want anybody.
There’s a normal balance most people with out these social issues fall into that renders them a bit more successful in romance regardless of physical attractiveness within reason.
All of this! I just think there is much more that we can do as a society to cultivate a culture of empathy, understanding and awareness. Because these people aren’t going away.
So it has to do with desires.
Involuntarily celibate doesn’t necessarily mean that these types can’t get ANYBODY. Because that’s just not true. They could go to prostitutes, get escorts, and many have even acknowledged overlooking women because they weren’t attracted to them.
The frustration ultimately comes from not being able to get the type of person you want to want you.
For femcels it’s a similar phenomenon. Just because you can get somebody to cum on your face, doesn’t mean you are getting what you want which is the love, affection and care from a person you desire.
For both groups it goes beyond just access to sex and into feeling entitled to desire and attention and affection from those they truly want.
In that video where the friends were sharing what was wrong with their incel friends, listen to some of the preferences they said these types described and how rigid they were in them.
Thanks. I've heard so many people refer to themselves as red pill without providing a definition. These people generally talk about not getting into relationships as well. That's why I asked. I think there is an important distinction to be made. If we talking being aware of human nature and being about your business as a man then I am all for it. If we are talking not settling down in a relationship ie the foundation of a family then I can't rock with that.
Formerly Black Trash
Philosopher, Connoisseur, Future Legend
Don’t allow women to work
This won’t solve anything and would actually make things worse imo, but play it out for us. What are you imagining?
Formerly Black Trash
Philosopher, Connoisseur, Future Legend
Wasn’t no incel a when our grandparents came up
This won’t solve anything and would actually make things worse imo, but play it out for us. What are you imagining?
That’s all I’m saying
I didn’t say it was a moral solution
I have a white friend in Atlanta who's an incel. Back when we were working retail, he was once referred to as, "that guy who's scared of girls" by a female coworker. He isn't one of those angry dudes.
When I ask him about women he says, "I've pretty much given up on that stuff."
He makes good money at his government job, has a car, and even owns his own home. But when you don't take any shots, you can't win.
I don't live in Atlanta anymore, so I'm not around to try to help him.
When I ask him about women he says, "I've pretty much given up on that stuff."
He makes good money at his government job, has a car, and even owns his own home. But when you don't take any shots, you can't win.
I don't live in Atlanta anymore, so I'm not around to try to help him.
Ok I can rock with this. I see what you are saying with the femcels. I think one of the major issues we have when discussing issues between men and women as that we don't take into account the different value systems. Women value love and affection and attention more than sex. Men are the inverse. Now this isn't saying that women don't value sex or men don't value love and attention but it's a matter of supply/demand. The average woman can get dikk whenever she wants. The average dude can get non sexual attention and affection pretty easily.
I gotta blame media and pop culture for people having the game so fukked up. People think they can go above their weight class because that is all movies and TV shows tell you. That's why I say it's important for parents to break the game down for their kids. It's starts with modeling healthy interaction and then you have to actually teach kids the game that they are playing. As one breh said, this is not always realistic. We have a lot of parents that just nutted up in the wrong person/let the wrong person nut up in them. That's sad but true but I also think that's why so many people have shyt fukked up. Your parents are your first example of how this shyt goes so if they are fukked up what chance do you have to figure it out on your own?
Most red pill guys who get into relationships already know they’re the provider guy, but they’re getting tangibles out of the deal ( tax breaks, consistent sex, a legacy, and etc).
I get it but women were working back in those days as well. Especially in our community. After slavery, there was never a period of time where we weren’t constantly employed. Nurses, cooks, house cleaners, laundresses, daycare, teachers, factories, mills.“Compared with other women in the United States, black women have always had the highest levels of labor market participation regardless of age, marital status, or presence of children at home. In 1880, 35.4 percent of married black women and 73.3 percent of single black women were in the labor force compared with only 7.3 percent of married white women and 23.8 percent of single white women. Black women’s higher participation rates extended over their lifetimes, even after marriage, while white women typically left the labor force after marriage.”
So I’m not sure if women not working is gonna fix this.
