Indian sisters sentenced to be raped as punishment

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Camile.Bidan said:
A forum full of progressive-relativists passing judgment on another culture.

how dare you make the suggest that fair treatment of women is a moral absolute!!!!!


Progressives can't even consistently apply their own moral theory.

You pulled a gun on a female just because she talked to you.

You can't say ANYTHING in-regards to how to treat women.

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How do you value, as a punishment, raping women for somebody else's "fault" ? Do you think it's fair game as a human being ?


I think what this tribe is doing absolutely immoral. But I believe in moral absolutes, and believe that some cultures are inferior to others.


How can people who subscribed to ideologies founded on relativism (socialism, communism and progressivism) criticize the moral frame work of another culture? The whole conclusion of relativism is that morality is a function of a cultural sphere and that moral absolutes don't exist.

Engels himself said that there is no eternal moral truth that exists among differing nations.


As relativists, this forum should conclude that what happens in that small village is a function of that village's moral sphere and move-on.
 

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You're really gonna stand here and tell me that Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels would support the rape of two women because their brother had sex with a higher caste women? You're really going to say this?


Marx and Engels wouldn't support it, but they would have no moral argument to say it is wrong because they don't believe in moral absolutes. there is no moral absolutes in our present society according to them. If so, then how anything be universally wrong (such as this rape case)? Sure they may have a caste issue here leverage on, but there is no apparent class issue when a Muslim women gets beheaded for coveting another man. There is no class issue when Isis throws homosexuals off buildings.

I don't cape for European law. I dont need religion or Marx or law to tell me rape is wrong.

So you believe in moral absolutes?

What basis do you have to conclude on the morality of an act without a moral framework by which judge an act? Do believe in kant's theory (universalizable maxim), utilitarianism, feminist ethics, or some alternative?

obviously, you don't believe in relativism because you freely criticize other cultures and their own norms and morals.

But that's okay. rejecting relativism is just removing another premise from the syllogistic argument of Communism. you want to have a ideology based on shaky foundation...that's your business
 

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I think what this tribe is doing absolutely immoral. But I believe in moral absolutes, and believe that some cultures are inferior to others.


How can people who subscribed to ideologies founded on relativism (socialism, communism and progressivism) criticize the moral frame work of another culture? The whole conclusion of relativism is that morality is a function of a cultural sphere and that moral absolutes don't exist.

Engels himself said that there is no eternal moral truth that exists among differing nations.


As relativists, this forum should conclude that what happens in that small village is a function of that village's moral sphere and move-on.
You're the one putting this sub forum into the relativist sphere so it can fit your way of arguing with us. The reality is far more simpler : whatever we believe in, we do and think what we want. Same as you.
And the criticism of that sentence isn't about the morality of the punishment, it's about the logic of it : the punishment doesn't fall on the one who faulted.
 

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An all-male village council has ordered that 23-year-old Meenakshi Kumari and her 15-year-old sister should be gang raped, have their faces blackened and then be paraded naked because their brother eloped with a married woman from a higher caste.
am all male village council huh?...let me guess they decide who the rapers get to be
fukking sociopath pervs:beli:
 

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You're the one putting this sub forum into the relativist sphere so it can fit your way of arguing with us. The reality is far more simpler : whatever we believe in, we do and think what want. Same as you.
And the criticism of that sentence isn't about the morality of the punishment, it's about the logic of it : the punishment doesn't fall on the one who faulted.


The bolded reads exactly like an argument for relativism


The punishment is a product of that village's culture and it's own ethics.
 
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