"Infinity" as a concept is just a fantasy.

[inndaskKy]

The reason it's an analogy is because we cannot mentally grasp 4D.

When I describe the qualities of a 4D model, I relate it to something we can compute. Which is a 2D plane warped in a third dimension.

A map. It has only two dimensions that you need to consider. The deeper truth is that the 2D space of the map actually exists on a larger 3D object. In a normal process of driving from one point on the map to another, the third spatial dimension is not a factor.

We understand that there is a third dimension. Up in this case. Now understand that X y and z have a dimension that that wrap around in also.

I bring the globe in to it to illustate that, just like x and y are "infinite" on the globe (circular), x y AND x are "infinite" in the cosmos (circular). But not truly infinite because there is a certain size for each axis. Just like there is a certain value for the circumference of the spheroid Earth.

First of all, we can definitely mentally grasp 4D. In fact, we can grasp infinity D [EDIT: pause!], that's why this is a topic of discussion in the first place. But what would make you believe that we can grasp such extra dimensions in our tiny little heads but that they wouldn't (be able to) exist in the world at large outside ourselves?

Where many physicists go wrong is to assume that anything that we will never be able to have control over can't exist or isn't worth thinking about. It's because science is fundamentally a narcissistic enterprise that is only concerned with exerting control over nature to gain power.

That's why humble people tend to be a lot wiser than scientists and why philosophy will always be more interesting than physics.

 

[the elastic]

 

[null]

My answer was just to solve the belief that the universe is infinite and the language about how

If this is more of a “change my mind” kinda thing, im not equipped to do that. I have no clue if it’s infinite or not, probability wise we are in a computer simulation so our universe ends at whatever fixed borders are outside of our visibility

there is no fixed border to the visible universe.

 

[null]

So there is no end point. There are no boundaries, it’s size is unable to be determined because it is constantly expanding. Therefore it’s infinite in size. The ability and time it takes to quantify the size is slower than the rate of expansion

 

[RickyDiBiase]

That is literally what this is. This:

is the most generic fake deep obvious shyt ever

You just described why I can’t stand the Matrix


Great action scenes tho

 

[TL15]

there is no fixed border to the visible universe.

Fixed borders outside of our visibility

 

[null]

Fixed borders outside of our visibility

we don't know if they exist.

 

[Positive Poster]

Infinity can exist to a phenomenon that is constantly expanding. For the notion of “space is infinite” let’s look at it (I’m not saying space is infinite, I don’t know I’m just talking about the concept and the words):

You are using space as a fixed “thing” but you should look at space like an event.

It’s an event that is going to keep growing/expanding/“going” forever.

So there is no end point. There are no boundaries, it’s size is unable to be determined because it is constantly expanding. Therefore it’s infinite in size. The ability and time it takes to quantify the size is slower than the rate of expansion

As we currently believe we can only detect 4% of the universe (which means it must be way less), in my humble opinion: just because everything seems to be moving away from everything else (like the surface of a balloon being inflated) it’s still a bit of a stretch to conclude that the whole universe is expanding. (Don’t ask me how)

 

[Ciggavelli]

Borders don't make logical sense. What is outside of the border then? Who/what put the border there?

Nothing can't create something. Something exists now. Therefore, there was never a time when there was nothing. There was never a beginning. There was never a start to existence. Time doesn't exist on a meta-level. Everything is just happening at once, infinitely.

 

[null]

As we currently believe we can only detect 4% of the universe (which means it must be way less), in my humble opinion: just because everything seems to be moving away from everything else (like the surface of a balloon being inflated) it’s still a bit of a stretch to conclude that the whole universe is expanding. (Don’t ask me how)

so everything is shrinking?

 

[null]

that stops cycling when we get to a length where glass loses its glass-ness/reflective properties.

 

[Still Benefited]

Wise man but youd have to be spiritual to grasp this concept.


Everything is spirit/energy. If you acknowledge the "universe" could be created in seconds,obviously it could retract to nothingness within seconds. If you believe in an intelligent designer/God that is.



Then you would have to believe God think the universe right back into existence. So a better way to put it would be to say the cycles are potentially infinite.


Example of this would be your existence. You dont remember coming out of a womb. You essentially thought yourself into existence and started doing shyt in your universe around age 2-3. You just happen to believe the backstory your parents gave you.




One day you will "die",nobody knows what will happen after that. Potentially you go back to nothingness,or maybe you think yourself back into existence and start over. The cycles are maybe finite,or potentially infinite. Its subjective at end of the day. The possibilities based on what we know in this reality?probably about 3-5,therefore not infinite.


You die and the universe goes on without you,you die and the universe doesnt continue without you observing it,because YOU created it(simulation),or you can reincarnate a finite or infinite ammount of times

 

[MajesticLion]

Oh that's easy. It's the mathematical formula for evil.

 

[B86]

This sounds good but it’s incorrect. You’re using infinity as a representation of ‘unknown’, whereas infinity is relative to measure. That’s its. It’s very straight forward it’s not a figment of imagination.

The bottom of the ocean. Finite. 35,814 feet

The world’s oil supply. Finite. ~ 1.73 trillion barrels

The world’s oxygen supply. Infinite. It’s endless.

I thought I was tripping…

 

[Hoodoo Child]