Insecure women eliminates herself on ‘Pop The Balloon’; black men get blamed for it

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We act obtuse because the discourse is rarely in good faith :manny:

* They over generalize black men and ignore the amount who do date and are attracted to ds bw

* They view "listening to peoples experiences" as a privilege that should only be given to women and don't care about dark skin black men's experiences with colorism (check how they treated Terrell Owens when he opened up)

* They ignore when bw engage in their own colorism - wanting daughters with "good hair", stereotyping light skin and dark skin men, using the term "medium ugly" on predominantly dark skin men, etc.

* They also begin to act incel-ish - they shame black men's preferences in a way that they would hate if it were done to them.

It feels like mate guarding.

If I can admit SOME black men are colorist, you can admit to what I'm saying :manny:

Unless you're like @Gloxina who never responds to these points in colorism threads :manny:
I know you lying.
 

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Everyone has a source of insecurity and for women, it seems to always be centered on their desirability to men.

We can’t act like dark skin women have not received unfair treatment for just being dark skin. It’s real and if people don’t want to acknowledge it then that’s their own manipulation of reality.

What I saw was a woman who allowed her insecurity to overcome what she wanted. A man who values her and doesn’t automatically dismiss her because of her complexion.

Folks want to act like men, especially, black men have not perpetuated the inferiority that some dark skin women feel in the dating game.

I’ve seen it too many times. Even dark skin men telling me their preference and calling me a “redbone” and I have to school those ignorant dudes on colorism.

I just don’t get why black men seem to be deliberately obtuse as to why dark skin women feel the way they do. They did not make their skin tone into something that others should perceive as unattractive… you men did that shyt.

And the worst thing about is that you silly dudes don’t even see what you do.

You constantly put women in categories based on their complexions or their race or where they’re from and what ethnic group they belong to. You constantly put women against each other in your own warped view of desirability and then want to act like a deer in front of headlights when those women express insecurity and superiority because of how you labeled them.


Light skin women think they’re better than dark skin women… yeah dummy because you said that and you made those women believe it

Why do white women think all black men want them??? Yeah dummy because your folks in your group put them on a pedestal now you’re mad that they started to believe it

So now dark skin women are just insecure for no reason, huh?

Black women have issues with being desirable for no reason, huh?

This is what men have done.
All of this.
All of this.



Someone claimed I disappear when colorism is discussed, but that’s far from true.

Black women on this board have discussed these exact points for years on here. Dudes don’t want to listen, or say that we are holding on to experiences from HS and need to get over it.
But dudes are allowed to remember the dark skinned girls who didn’t like them when they were kids, and that’s a perfectly good reason to decide to PAWG or chase Latinas when they are grown. :sas2: :martin:

That’s why I don’t bother with the disingenuous conversations.


I’ve had HBCU educated negros tell me to my face they don’t like “nappy” hair
(texturism).
Which is why when many of our men say they prefer natural hair and hate weaves, the natural hair many are referring to is hair with a looser texture; finding Black women with softer, looser hair. Let the latinas tell you what Black men they date say about Black women's hair, or how it’s so nice they can let their hair get wet and it’s still straight/curly, etc.

I already mentioned in another thread yesterday how because of my facial features (nose), dudes ask me if I’m mixed with something. When I would blow my hair out or rock a curly weave Hispanic ppl would walk up to me speaking Spanish thinking I was Dominican or something, and brehs who thought I wasn’t “just Black” or “regular”’would be legit disappointed when I confirmed I was Black and Black.

I mentioned on here before how when I was younger, dudes would literally hold my hand, look down, run their fingers across my hand and VERBALLY CONFIRM that they could see the veins in my hand. Why would they do that? Because I’m brown skinned. I’m dark to them, but not so dark that they can’t see through my skin.

I mentioned the “Blue Vein Society” cuz that shyt is textbook colorism from OUR history and OUR people.



This sis breaks it down well⬇️⬇️





And it’s not that I don’t acknowledge that Black men can experience colorism from women in our community. Some of us can be just as ignorant and hurtful about certain things, but I won’t say it is on the same scale.

As it was noted in this thread, even this site is proof. The way y’all categorize/describe women strictly based on skin color or ethnicity. DS women thread, LS women thread, Caribbean women thread, PAWG thread, Latina threads, etc. Can’t just be “drop pics of beautiful women” thread.

The way y’all categorize women/looks is completely different, and the difference is always the fact that women are judged initially/primarily on looks/attractiveness, and when dark skin is considered less attractive in general, you will always be considered less than LS women simply because of your skin. You have to be an above average darker skinned woman to balance the playing field.

As men, y’all aren’t primarily judged on looks. Being fit, having your life in order, hell just knowing how to talk to women will get you in there because women/society doesn’t judge y’all the same way.

At the end of the day, men generally do the approaching, y’all are hunters. The women who usually get the most attention are LS.

And the LS baby with “good hair” is a moot point. Part of the desire for a LS or different race partner for both sexes is to reduce their features in their next generation.
Damaged Black women may be more VOCAL about it, but the damaged men running to Becky or Maria have the exact same desire.


@KidJSoul don’t do it; I’ve never ducked a colorism discussion.
 
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One breath women declare nothing they do is for men's attention. Another they'll blame their insecurities on perceived male desirability. Colourism in the dating market is a copout, as attractive dark skin women get picked. Beauty is a combination of aesthetic, body shape, facial features i.e Anna Diop, Aduta Aketch, Naomi Campbell, Lupita. The issue's that women compete for the best & average women find it hard to accept their MIDness. This exacerbates the chip on their shoulder and sips into attitude.
OF COURSE attractive dark skinned women get picked LOL
That’s one of the benefits of being a pretty woman; your “look” will be appreciated by various people. If not your own, someone from another group.

Colorism is DEF a thing, but it’s most obvious when we are talking about average/less attractive women.

The average LS woman has a completely different experience in our culture than the average DS woman, that’s the point.


Every community has its own beauty standard. For us, it’s light skin. And average in the face LS woman will still regarded differently than girls who are darker than her 🤷🏾‍♀️ And brehs can deny it all they want, but like I’ve said before, sit and have a conversation with DS HS girls or girls in undergrad and listen to what they say. You have HS and college girl who have discussed this ad naseum on social media.

For whites, for example, it’s blond hair/blue eyes. Chick could be hit in the face, but as long as she has natural blond hair and blue eyes she’s beautiful to their community. Those are the features they prefer.

That doesn’t mean brunettes, red heads, women with brown or green eyes, etc don’t have guys who are attracted to them; it’s just acknowledging that many of their men prefer blond hair and blue eyes. To the point white women dye their hair blond and wear colored contacts (who you think colored contacts were invented for? White women who wanted to fool white men and pretend to have blue eyes 🤣🤣).
 

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Colorism is a thing and I think it's stupid but I got to be honest it's hard to feel sorry for women when comes to this because the majority of women can get dikk whenever they want and I'm including dark skin women in that. It's easy work so if I was a woman I wouldn't care about colorism in the dating scene.
 

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Colorism is a thing and I think it's stupid but I got to be honest it's hard to feel sorry for women when comes to this because the majority of women can get dikk whenever they want and I'm including dark skin women in that. It's easy work so if I was a woman I wouldn't care about colorism in the dating scene.
Getting dikk is not the goal as a woman lmao
Any woman can find a man who will bend her over. Getting a relationship, being approached because a man finds you attractive and wants to get to know you, not because he sees you as casual sex (which of course is also determined by how you conduct yourself as a woman) is what women want
 

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Everyone has a source of insecurity and for women, it seems to always be centered on their desirability to men.

We can’t act like dark skin women have not received unfair treatment for just being dark skin. It’s real and if people don’t want to acknowledge it then that’s their own manipulation of reality.

What I saw was a woman who allowed her insecurity to overcome what she wanted. A man who values her and doesn’t automatically dismiss her because of her complexion.

Folks want to act like men, especially, black men have not perpetuated the inferiority that some dark skin women feel in the dating game.

I’ve seen it too many times. Even dark skin men telling me their preference and calling me a “redbone” and I have to school those ignorant dudes on colorism.

I just don’t get why black men seem to be deliberately obtuse as to why dark skin women feel the way they do. They did not make their skin tone into something that others should perceive as unattractive… you men did that shyt.

And the worst thing about is that you silly dudes don’t even see what you do.

You constantly put women in categories based on their complexions or their race or where they’re from and what ethnic group they belong to. You constantly put women against each other in your own warped view of desirability and then want to act like a deer in front of headlights when those women express insecurity and superiority because of how you labeled them.


Light skin women think they’re better than dark skin women… yeah dummy because you said that and you made those women believe it

Why do white women think all black men want them??? Yeah dummy because your folks in your group put them on a pedestal now you’re mad that they started to believe it

So now dark skin women are just insecure for no reason, huh?

Black women have issues with being desirable for no reason, huh?

This is what men have done.

:beli:
Men aren't being obtuse, it's just very hard to give a shyt about something that women act like it only affects them and ignore how it affects black men or discuss this entirely in the context of access to black dikk (anyone want to talk economics? No? Thought so) or ignore the role other women have played in creating this issue and even more, ignore the role white people, especially white men have played in this issue. Don't believe me, look up how many times white people or even white supremacy has been mentioned in this thread by anyone, let alone women.

Too many of y'all don't want to get to the heart of the problem and instead, want to complain. It's not a good look because at the rate at which things are going, people will either entirely tune out the idea of people using colorism as an excuse and just see it as incel shyt or, unfortunately, associate being a dark-skinned woman with potential trauma and treat that as a red flag and someone to avoid. In short, if you all want to talk about this shyt, do so in good faith. Or go get some fukking therapy. Hot damn. :dahell:
 

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Getting dikk is not the goal as a woman lmao
Any woman can find a man who will bend her over. Getting a relationship, being approached because a man finds you attractive and wants to get to know you, not because he sees you as casual sex (which of course is also determined by how you conduct yourself as a woman) is what women want
Yet this is the context this shyt is ever discussed in. I'm actually curious how many times colorism has been discussed in a context other than access to black dikk on TLR, let alone this thread. I want a breakdown since I'm betting it is near zero in this thread.
 

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Everyone has a source of insecurity and for women, it seems to always be centered on their desirability to men.

We can’t act like dark skin women have not received unfair treatment for just being dark skin. It’s real and if people don’t want to acknowledge it then that’s their own manipulation of reality.

What I saw was a woman who allowed her insecurity to overcome what she wanted. A man who values her and doesn’t automatically dismiss her because of her complexion.

Folks want to act like men, especially, black men have not perpetuated the inferiority that some dark skin women feel in the dating game.

I’ve seen it too many times. Even dark skin men telling me their preference and calling me a “redbone” and I have to school those ignorant dudes on colorism.

I just don’t get why black men seem to be deliberately obtuse as to why dark skin women feel the way they do. They did not make their skin tone into something that others should perceive as unattractive… you men did that shyt.

And the worst thing about is that you silly dudes don’t even see what you do.

You constantly put women in categories based on their complexions or their race or where they’re from and what ethnic group they belong to. You constantly put women against each other in your own warped view of desirability and then want to act like a deer in front of headlights when those women express insecurity and superiority because of how you labeled them.


Light skin women think they’re better than dark skin women… yeah dummy because you said that and you made those women believe it

Why do white women think all black men want them??? Yeah dummy because your folks in your group put them on a pedestal now you’re mad that they started to believe it

So now dark skin women are just insecure for no reason, huh?

Black women have issues with being desirable for no reason, huh?

This is what men have done.
These men are going to sit up in this thread and lie like they love to do and pretend like colourism doesn't exist.

They literally use to tell each other they were acting "light skinned" as a way to insult each other.

That's exactly why I don’t take them seriously. They only care about an issue when it affects them.

They were literally debating if women were happier as domestic slaves a few days ago. That should tell you what time they are on.
 

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Everyone has a source of insecurity and for women, it seems to always be centered on their desirability to men.

We can’t act like dark skin women have not received unfair treatment for just being dark skin. It’s real and if people don’t want to acknowledge it then that’s their own manipulation of reality.

What I saw was a woman who allowed her insecurity to overcome what she wanted. A man who values her and doesn’t automatically dismiss her because of her complexion.

Folks want to act like men, especially, black men have not perpetuated the inferiority that some dark skin women feel in the dating game.

I’ve seen it too many times. Even dark skin men telling me their preference and calling me a “redbone” and I have to school those ignorant dudes on colorism.

I just don’t get why black men seem to be deliberately obtuse as to why dark skin women feel the way they do. They did not make their skin tone into something that others should perceive as unattractive… you men did that shyt.

And the worst thing about is that you silly dudes don’t even see what you do.

You constantly put women in categories based on their complexions or their race or where they’re from and what ethnic group they belong to. You constantly put women against each other in your own warped view of desirability and then want to act like a deer in front of headlights when those women express insecurity and superiority because of how you labeled them.


Light skin women think they’re better than dark skin women… yeah dummy because you said that and you made those women believe it

Why do white women think all black men want them??? Yeah dummy because your folks in your group put them on a pedestal now you’re mad that they started to believe it

So now dark skin women are just insecure for no reason, huh?

Black women have issues with being desirable for no reason, huh?

This is what men have done.
I'm confused as to why women's lack of desirability has to be taken so much more seriously than men's.

If you're a man, either change or die.
Women don't like you, tough luck. Change something.

Yet men are responsible for why women feel the way they do about themselves.

Men's rejection = he's a loser.
Women's rejection = colorism or something she has no control over.

The fact that she went into an interaction with a man she's attracted to assuming he wouldn't be attracted to her is incel behavior.

Not to mention dark skin men have similar experiences as dark skin women, so to frame colorism as an issue created by black males is disingenuous.
 
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