"(insert black QB) can't read a defense"

[JLova]

the problem that I notice about this site and other sites like it, or other ppl that follow black qb's is that they ONLY really pay attention to whats being said about black qb's so they think that they are the only ones being talked about.
and if they do watch other games they usually watch other teams with good qb's so they don't hear it.

but you don't hear all the dudes saying guys like Orton, or Hoyer, or Shaub,etc,etc being talked about the same cuz most ppl don't watch them. nor are they getting any pub.

and about the younger guys,

how many Jags games do you watch? Bortles gets the same criticism.
how about Carr?


Also I hear TONS of ppl talking shyt about Dalton, Stafford, and Cutler and how they can't really read defenses well and rely solely on their receivers to bail them out(Green, Megatron, and marshall/jeffries respectively)

I clearly said the criticism is different. It's not based on intelligence or being able to grasp the complexities of the game. Do you see ESPN writing articles on Daulton, Stafford and Cutler?

You can't see the difference between the criticisms of black QBs and white ones? You think it's fair and balanced? Really?

Bortles is a rookie on a shyt team. How anyone can expect him to read defenses like Peyton, is baffling. Still, I don't read much criticims of him beyond Jacksonville fans. Jacksonville fans are silly anyways. They wanted McCown to start ahead of Garrard.

The Dalton criticism is again, different. Same with Stafford and Cutler. I'm not saying they don't get criticism. I'm picking on the kind of criticism they get. Tannehil gets some critique but it's still different.

That said...even I think the criticisms on Dalton and Stafford can be a little over the top. They're still young. Folk think QBs come into the league ready to ball out on a consistent basis. Those QBs are considered HOFers. Chris Chandler, Jeff George, Mike Tomzack, Bobby Brister all started...Imagine if the internet was around.

 

[JLova]

That's not the knock of Jameis. Everyone knows he can read defense because he can. It's off the field stuff with him bringing him down.

Just you wait. If he doesn't hit the ground running his intelligence will be called into question. Just you wait.

 

[TheNig]

@JLova can't read a defense.

 

[TheNig]

@Gil Scott-Heroin damn sure cant read a defense.

But @I.V. can read a defense and we know why.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

The wonderlic has nothing to do w/ reading a defense. Eli Manning had a high score and look how many ints he throw. Same for my man Luck. Peyton Manning threw a lot of ints early on in his career. QBs get fooled all the time. Under a pass rush, its difficult to tell if someone is playing Cover 3 instead of Quarters or even Man coverage.

I dont think kap reads defenses well, neither does Cornball. So what black qbs that this is said about do u not agree w/?

I should add that one of the goat brothas to read defenses was one Byron Antron Leftwich. He processed info so quick. He was brilliant. The white man didnt wanna see him shine, so they put a Oline made of tissue paper in front of him

 

[TheNig]

Kirk Cousins. Nuff said. He can't read a defense for shyt.

Better than Bob tho.

 

[TheNig]

The white man didnt wanna see him shine,

The white man tho?

 

[JLova]

The wonderlic has nothing to do w/ reading a defense. Eli Manning had a high score and look how many ints he throw. Same for my man Luck. Peyton Manning threw a lot of ints early on in his career. QBs get fooled all the time. Under a pass rush, its difficult to tell if someone is playing Cover 3 instead of Quarters or even Man coverage.

I dont think kap reads defenses well, neither does Cornball. So what black qbs that this is said about do u not agree w/?

I should add that one of the goat brothas to read defenses was one Byron Antron Leftwich. He processed info so quick. He was brilliant. The white man didnt wanna see him shine, so they put a Oline made of tissue paper in front of him

Just cuz you turn the ball over doesn't mean you can't read the defense. Sometimes a defender makes a great play or the throw is off or the receiver ran the wrong route, etc. Just saying, "he doesn't know how to read a D" is lazy. Can Kaep read a D? I think he can. Does he do it well? Not particularly but there aren't any young QBs I can think of that DO read defenses well. There isn't one I'd say "can't read a defense" though.

 

[Ohene]

These lazy claims irk the fukk out of me. Especially with the young guys as if QBs come into league being able to read defenses. I only seem to read this with black QBs. And it again goes back to the stupid group think that black QBs are not intelligent enough. Whether it's Cutler, Stafford, Locker, etc...the knock is never on their intelligence. Never hear how Dalton can't read a defense. Why is it?

BTW, I don't know how nikkaz who have no clue what a QBs reads are can sit back there and determine whether he can or can't read a defense. Reading defenses comes with experience. Also comes with a solid system, good line, etc. I have no clue how folk expect that shyt in a 2,3,4 year vet still learning the game.

thats what i keep saying to idiots. You gotta give a QB a good 2 years to fukk up and get it together smh

 

[Trip]

Peyton and Brady study more than anyone...it comes down to putting in the work and having the ability to think and react quickly. It's cliched as all hell...but the QB(especially young ones) basically has to live at the facility to be successful. And considering a lot of the young guys early fame...that's orobably not easy for them.

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

Peyton and Brady study more than anyone...it comes down to putting in the work and having the ability to think and react quickly. It's cliched as all hell...but the QB(especially young ones) basically has to live at the facility to be successful. And considering a lot of the young guys early fame...that's orobably not easy for them.

People can study and still not get it. Also, success is tougher to deal with than failure.

 

[Ohene]

i always thought the wonderlic was more so about being able to understand the intricacies of the playbook and such.

i've seen parts of the test and a lot of it is attn to detail type stuff from what i remember. that was like 7,8 years ago though

 

[Trip]

People can study and still not get it. Also, success is tougher to deal with than failure.

I agree. But you can't not study and play QB at a high level over the long haul.

But you get backup gigs based more on digesting the playbook than overall ability imo

 

[blackestofpanthers]

Peyton and Brady study more than anyone

Do you know this for a fact?

 

[Trip]

Do you know this for a fact?

I think Peyton's study habits are well documented.