Intelligent life does exist on other worlds but we will never communicate with them.

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

How is that irrelevant? Quantum Entanglement proves faster than light communication can exist

Unfortunately, entangled particles are easily disturbed by their surroundings: their entanglement is readily diminished by the slightest interaction with the environment. ... When it comes to distributing particles of light outside of a protected laboratory, the environmental conditions are identical to the tested ones.


This is even harder to master than storing anti-matter.

 

[Outlaw]

Unfortunately, entangled particles are easily disturbed by their surroundings: their entanglement is readily diminished by the slightest interaction with the environment. ... When it comes to distributing particles of light outside of a protected laboratory, the environmental conditions are identical to the tested ones.


This is even harder to master than storing anti-matter.

So you don’t think a civilization thousands or millions of years more advanced than ours could not perfect the technology?

The premise of this thread is incorrect because you’re projecting alien technology based on our comparatively primitive lens.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

So you don’t think a civilization thousands or millions of years more advanced than ours could not perfect the technology?

The premise of this thread is incorrect because you’re projecting alien technology based on our comparatively primitive lens.

So they would need technology that could speed up photons . We're close to that. A photon shake.

But again. At this point the radius is already greater than at least 40 light years from a civilization advanced enough to pull it off.

If the closest one is thousands of light years away, do you know how long it would take? Then there is the interest factor. We could be the only planet in the galaxy with an advanced civilization or one of only a handful so spread out, it would be impossible to find one another. Other galaxies might have hundreds all within distance of one another.


You're assuming that all other advanced civilizations have the same curiosity as we do.

 

[analog]

Light photons and all the waves in the electromagnetic spectrum have a speed limit. That's already been proven. You cant change how fast light travels. Gravity can bend it, but it doesn't increase its speed.

Any radio waves or light signals another civilization gives off will only travel at the speed of light.

What you're saying would require a device that can speed up light traveling towards us, and then push out signals faster than light.


If a signal is 100,000 light years away traveling towards us, we still wouldn't know it existed.

All that is based on our understanding of the universe.

A bit presumptuous to completely rule out the possibility of another species out there wielding a technology that bypasses all of those limitations. Hell, given enough time and resources, humans may find a way around that seemingly impossible wall

 

[Micky Mikey]

given our tragectory we may go extinct before communication is even possible

 

[null]

So they would need technology that could speed up photons . We're close to that. A photon shake.

But again. At this point the radius is already greater than at least 40 light years from a civilization advanced enough to pull it off.

If the closest one is thousands of light years away, do you know how long it would take? Then there is the interest factor. We could be the only planet in the galaxy with an advanced civilization or one of only a handful so spread out, it would be impossible to find one another. Other galaxies might have hundreds all within distance of one another.


You're assuming that all other advanced civilizations have the same curiosity as we do.

options

1. bend spacetime
2. route via extra dimensions
3. dimension gravity leakage
4. tachyons
5. time dilation

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

options

1. bend spacetime
2. route via extra dimensions
3. dimension gravity leakage
4. tachyons
5. time dilation

Pretty much, especially point 1.

 

[GnauzBookOfRhymes]

Think about the disappointment if we did end up finding life but they ended up less intelligent than humans.

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

Think about the disappointment if we did end up finding life but they ended up less intelligent than humans.

It’s pretty certain that there are civilizations that we are more advance than and others that are more advanced than us.

but let’s talk about those that are more advanced than us, why would they want to communicate with us? Especially if they have the ability to come here and observe? As grown ups we don’t have intellectual conversations with children right? If anything as an advanced civilization they would do everything in their power to keep humans here on earth from going beyond this solar system..

Humans aren’t welcomed in the galactic community until they evolve

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

options

1. bend spacetime
2. route via extra dimensions
3. dimension gravity leakage
4. tachyons
5. time dilation

Pretty much, especially point 1.

You 2 are on some sci fi shyt.

The only realistic was of even confirming an advanced civilization is with a telescope.

With a mirror the size of the moon, which would give visuals close enough to see city lights. Other than that, in the future we will be able to detect detailed chemical composition of atmospheres and that about it.

You can try to speed up a communication signal, but there is no guarantee the receiver will A. understand what it is, B. are able to detect it in the first place, C. have technology to respond at the same rate.

Not to mention, if the planet is far enough, we would be sending a signal to a target that won't even be there by the time the signal reaches.

Like I said, there has to be a radius of about 20 to 40 light years.


And yes, there may very well be beings that exist in a 4th or 5th dimension, but we only have access to 3. And we are bound by the laws of the 3rd dimension.

 

[Outlaw]

You 2 are on some sci fi shyt.

The only realistic was of even confirming an advanced civilization is with a telescope.

With a mirror the size of the moon, which would give visuals close enough to see city lights. Other than that, in the future we will be able to detect detailed chemical composition of atmospheres and that about it.

You can try to speed up a communication signal, but there is no guarantee the receiver will A. understand what it is, B. are able to detect it in the first place, C. have technology to respond at the same rate.

Not to mention, if the planet is far enough, we would be sending a signal to a target that won't even be there by the time the signal reaches.

Like I said, there has to be a radius of about 20 to 40 light years.


And yes, there may very well be beings that exist in a 4th or 5th dimension, but we only have access to 3. And we are bound by the laws of the 3rd dimension.

Where did you get your theoretical physics or astrobiology degree?

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

Where did you get your theoretical physics or astrobiology degree?

most of what I said is basic math and common knowledge.

when you speak about wormholes it may vary well be plausible but not in the scope of current science. The only thing we know of that can bend or warp time is gravity. Black holes to be more specific. And since nothing can escape the inside of one, there is no what to even analyze or study any data collected.

we are prisoners of distance and time.

 

[Rum&Pineapple]

This just reminded me of the Dark Forest Theory.
We might be the only dumb ones trying to make our location known.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

This just reminded me of the Dark Forest Theory.
We might be the only dumb ones trying to make our location known.

or maybe every other civilization with access to the 3rd dimension realizes that the universe is too big to reach one another and are content with mastering their own local solar system.

civilizations with access to higher dimensions probably see our world like we see ant hills.


realistically, the only way interstellar travel and communication will work is via A.I. and/or transferring our consciousness into robotic vessels that will enable us to live for thousands of years.

 

[Skooby]

In many ways humanity is still in its infancy.

But we could send a probe as small as a microchip on a lightsail. It could take about 40 years to get to Proxima Centuri b.

Eventually, if a planet is habitable or maybe we can even terraform it, we can send a colony ship to go there. Start a settlement.

Even if there are no aliens, we will become the aliens to start populating the galaxy. But we have to start with our own solar system first.

First things first though. Mining the asteroid belt.