Interesting bible verses against xmas

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He always held me down when I was a hypocrite and a scumbag. I only called on him when I feared for my life and health. How selfish and ungrateful of me.

I'm glad you survived and I hope you're doing well.
Plenty of people have called onto God when they had fear. Why weren't those prayers answered?


Now that I have been following him, he's shown me and lead me to things. Even showed me in a dream. How I have to forgive two family members I resented and have to show them the day I see them in person. Not simply say it to myself.

What exactly did you see and hear in this dream and how did you know it was God?
I asked God to prove himself to me, but I haven't seen or heard the proof.

Not just rejecting scripture but because you didn't trust your senses. You actually soaked the the world around you, everything and anybody in your vision. Really concluded this was done by no creator or something as foolish as the big bang theory. As the bibles say doctrines of devils.

If I had to guess, I would say this was created by something, but I don't have any proof. I can't definitively say there is or there isn't a God.

How did you come to the conclusion that the Christian God is the creator? Why are Muslims, Hindus, and smaller religions wrong?
 

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Rozay Oro said:
Jeremiah 10:2-4 (KJV)
Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

This has nothing to do with Christmas. It has to do with the crafting of idols and you did what most dishonest critics do: you didn't quote the part of the verse that makes your entire argument void:

Jeremiah 10:5

5 Like a scarecrow in a cucumber field,
their idols cannot speak;
they must be carried
because they cannot walk.

Do not fear them;
they can do no harm
nor can they do any good.”

That's what the author was referring to in regards to cutting down trees since idols were fashioned of wood. No one expects a tree to walk, but idols were often fashioned in the likeness of some figure, human or otherwise, that could be mobile.

Next....

Rozay Oro said:
Isaiah 44:8-19 (KJV)
Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

They that make a graven image are all of them vanity; and their delectable things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses; they see not, nor know; that they may be ashamed.

Who hath formed a god, or molten a graven image that is profitable for nothing?

Behold, all his fellows shall be ashamed: and the workmen, they are of men: let them all be gathered together, let them stand up; yet they shall fear, and they shall be ashamed together.

The smith with the tongs both worketh in the coals, and fashioneth it with hammers, and worketh it with the strength of his arms: yea, he is hungry, and his strength faileth: he drinketh no water, and is faint.

The carpenter stretcheth out his rule; he marketh it out with a line; he fitteth it with planes, and he marketh it out with the compass, and maketh it after the figure of a man, according to the beauty of a man; that it may remain in the house.

I omitted the rest since the first few verses invalidate your claim.

This entire portion is referring to the practice of crafting idols, not Christmas trees, that's why they are planed, marked with lines and compasses, and made into 'a figure of a man'.

Your entire argument using verses of the text is voided by the text itself.

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Rozay Oro said:
We don't know Jesus' birthday. We have been lied about his birthday.

Not at all. Jesus' birth was gleaned from the text/Jewish traditions since they didn't exactly keep birth records 2,000+ years ago.

Just because we don't know the exact date it does not follow that anyone is lying about when he was born.

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biscuitsnbangers said:
the only ‘holidays’ that should be celebrated are those in leviticus 23

Mosaic Law only held in Israel and was superseded by the 'New Covenant', i.e., 'Christ's Law', in the New Testament.....

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Read this. It'll help you understand just what the first Christians, who were actually Jews, understood regarding observance of the Mosaic Law.​
 

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Rozay Oro said:
We don't know that neither nor is it relevant for our salvation. Easter is another holiday with paganism embedded.

This, like your assertion concerning Christmas, is false. Easter is actually part of pasach (Passover), which Jews had been celebrating for over a thousand years.

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JBWalton said:
Bible is full of contradictions.

False. Critics commonly assert that thinking that the text was written over the course of a couple months or something. The fact of the matter is that the entire corpus was written, re-written, redacted, edited, etc, over the course of several centuries. As time went by, new understandings developed and were integrated into the text based on different circumstances. What many perceive as contradictions are, in fact, just natural cultural progress reflected in the text.

I think it boils-down to what the terms 'inspiration' and 'revelation' mean.

Neither of them are events, but processes.​
 
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