Interesting bible verses against xmas

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

No it isn't

Yeah, it is. Passover occurs in early Spring because of Exodus 13:4.

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[O³ (O cubed)]

False. Critics commonly assert that thinking that the text was written over the course of a couple months or something. The fact of the matter is that the entire corpus was written, re-written, redacted, edited, etc, over the course of several centuries. As time went by, new understandings developed and were integrated into the text based on different circumstances. What many perceive as contradictions are, in fact, just natural cultural progress reflected in the text.

I think it boils-down to what the terms 'inspiration' and 'revelation' mean.

Neither of them are events, but processes.​

Unless you read the original texts in the languages they were written (Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek etc) you're getting secondhand info. You read ancient Greek breh?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Unless you read the original texts in the languages they were written (Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek etc) you're getting secondhand info. You read ancient Greek breh?

I can read Hebrew.......poorly. I depend on actual bonafide Greek/Aramaic scholars for NT texts/commentaries.

James Dunn, Micheal Heiser, Bart Ehrman, Daniel Wallace, and a few others are my 'go-to' scholars.

As far as getting 'second-hand' information, you can see editing/redaction/etc. for yourself.....or do you think Moses actually wrote about what happened to the Hebrews AFTER he was already dead?​

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I read the verses and still cant figure out when and where it went against christmas...

*not religous

That's because those verses AREN'T against Christmas. They are against the worship of idols fashioned from trees. Christmas Trees aren't idols.

The next tactic of those who try this type of argumentation is to assert that bending down to get presents from beneath the tree is equivalent to praying TO the tree like an idol.

The problem with that is everyone who's ever had an upset stomach can be said to be praying to a toilet, every plumber who's fixed a leaky pipe can be said to be praying to a sink, every mechanic who's changed a tire can be said to be praying to a vehicle, etc.

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[Chez Lopez]

That’s the thing.. it’s not about what YOU think. the bible through and through states NOT to follow pagans and heathers traditions. that’s literally one of if not the main reason the israelites were cursed.. for doing what they wanted and forsaken the most high for THEIR own ways. it’s definitely that serious.

if the most high didn’t care why did he gives us an entire instructional book on how to live? what to do? what not to do?


2 Peter 1:20 ►
Parallel Verses
King James Version
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

Perfect.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Perfect.

Not at all. None of you who say this actually follow those Laws.........because you can't.

If you can't read/speak Hebrew, you can't teach it......which violates the Law.

If you have never written a Torah Scroll.............you violated the Law.

If you haven't left a portion of your entire field to feed the poor......you violated the Law.

If you've intermarried (had intercourse) with Gentiles.......you violated the Law.

I could go on and on and on since there are about 600+ of these Laws, some of them ONLY to be followed in Israel, and you have to follow EACH of them in-full.


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[2CT]

the verses posted in the OP are referencing idol worship which was common in the Old Testament

basically was talking to people who would celebrate by worshipping trees or using the trees to worship false idols like the Pagans would do

ain’t nothing wrong with celebrating Christmas in the modern sense as long as you remember that Christ is supposed to be the basis of the celebration

 

[Chez Lopez]

i go by the moon, not the saturday sabbath

No, israelite is by nation, hun. I am not of the bloodline or nation. I am greek, greeks are not israelites. Israelite is a nation and or bloodline. not a religious practice or a race. hence why most if not all don’t subscribe to religion, it’s not a religion and refer to themselves according to their nation, not their race or skin color (black)

Agreed, except that most nations started as families, which usually relates all national ties. But I agree. Except for the sabbath though, sabbath does not go by the moon

 

[Chez Lopez]

Not at all. None of you who say this actually follow those Laws.........because you can't.

If you can't read/speak Hebrew, you can't teach it......which violates the Law.

If you have never written a Torah Scroll.............you violated the Law.

If you haven't left a portion of your entire field to feed the poor......you violated the Law.

If you've intermarried (had intercourse) with Gentiles.......you violated the Law.

I could go on and on and on since there are about 600+ of these Laws, some of them ONLY to be followed in Israel, and you have to follow EACH of them in-full.


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Why reply to me when i didnt reply to you? everything that you just said is false, however. But i dont have time for weak arguments right now.

 

[ultraflexed]

They don’t care breh. Christmas is like a runaway freight train moving 100mph. Nothing’s gonna stop it, not even a bible verse.
Bout the last thing opened and read on dec 25th is a bible.

To keep it 100, Jesus wasnt born in december

 

[Chez Lopez]

Sex is literally the joining of two spirits to become one flesh. Hence why a married women can not go on to be with another man unless her husband dies. Because her soul has become tied to him through sex hence marriage

let’s look at this precept for example

1 Corinthians 6:15-16
Our bodies are the members of Christ, and temples of the Holy Ghost: they must not therefore be defiled
15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.
16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.

where else does it refer to this in the bible?

back in genesis when first speaking of marriage..


Ephesians 5:28-31
28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.


now, to understand some things, biblically virgin can mean two things, it doesn’t just have to mean = untouched sexually, it can also translate to UNMARRIED. a lot of references to unmarried women biblically = virgin. hence why Mary was called a virgin. most times you will find unmarried women being refereed to as such, as well. it’s kinda interchangeable as it’s the same thing since once a women is married through either the joining of spirits or through the ceremony she no longer is one and has a husband.

Leviticus 21:13-14
Of his marriage
13 And he shall take a wife in her virginity.
14 A widow, or a divorced woman, or profane, or an harlot, these shall he not take: but he shall take a virgin of his own people to wife

these precepts are crucial to understanding why adultery is looked down upon because by dishonoring your wife or husband through such acts you are also sinning against yourself since two have become ONE flesh.

Perfect.

 

[NoMoreWhiteWoman2020]

We going full Hebrew in here?

it’s a capitalist holiday, the only thing is Christ is now is a marketing tool. That Lexus with the bow tie and those blood diamonds aren’t going to sell themselves.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

everything that you just said is false, however. But i dont have time for weak arguments right now.

You can't prove anything I said is false and that's why you 'don't have time'.

I can, however, back-up what I stated.....

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[Chez Lopez]

You can't prove anything I said is false and that's why you 'don't have time'.

I can, however, back-up what I stated.....

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lol. I actually hated ren and stimpy growing up.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

We going full Hebrew in here?

it’s a capitalist holiday, the only thing is Christ is now is a marketing tool. That Lexus with the bow tie and those blood diamonds aren’t going to sell themselves.

Does any of that mean you can't go over your parents'/siblings' houses (or invite them to yours) and tell them you love them and spend some time with them?

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