INTERESTING STAT IN KOBE VS. JORDAN DEBATE.

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Jordan just did it at a much higher percentage :sas1:


A percentage that will only increase when Kobe treats us to a 40.5% shooting from the field this season.

And everyone steals moves, so I can't knock that. But Kobe sharked Jordan's whole existence (minus 4 Finals MVPs, and 8 scoring titles)

from the way he walked and talked and his whole style. He's definitely the closest to Jordan, but still an inferior copy nonetheless.


MICHAEL JACKED DR. J.....IT'S THE EVOLUTION OF THE SPORT. KOBE HAS JUST AS MUCH JERRY WEST IN HIS GAME AS HE DO MICHAEL, BUT MOST PEOPLE WONT KNOW THAT.
 

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SOME OF YOU MAY ALREADY KNOW THIS, BUT I NEVER GAVE MUCH THOUGHT TO THIS BEFORE TODAY...WHEN COMPARING KOBE'S AND JORDAN'S SCORING ACCOMPLISHMENTS, I NOTICED HOW MUCH HIGHER THE AMOUNT OF SCORING WAS IN THE LEAGUE BACK WHEN JORDAN PLAYED.

JUST TO TAKE THE TWO PLAYERS HIGHEST SCORING YEARS AS AN EXAMPLE, MJ SCORED 37.1 PPG IN 1986-1987, WHEN TEAMS WERE AVERAGING 109.9 PPG. IN CONTRAST, KOBE SCORED 35.4 PPG IN 2005-2006, WHEN TEAMS WERE AVERAGING 97.1 PPG.

OR, TO PUT IT ANOTHER WAY:
MJ: 37.1/109.9 = 0.337579618
KOBE: 35.4/97.1 = 0.364572606

KOBE'S "RATIO," BASED ON 109.9 POINTS PER GAME, WOULD HAVE EQUALED 40.1 PPG.

WHEN SEEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HIS ERA, KOBE'S PEAK SCORING IS EVEN MORE IMPRESSIVE.

This is common sense for all knowledgeable people, Kobe is GOAT.
 

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I don't know why a Jordan v. Kobe debate even exists. What's there to debate? Jordan >

You say the OP is based on facts. Actually, it's based on something hypothetical. Even if Kobe did play in Jordan's era and did average 40 points, I'll just "hypothetically" argue that Jordan would have shut Kobe down as he did to all other competition.
 

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I don't know why a Jordan v. Kobe debate even exists. What's there to debate? Jordan >

You say the OP is based on facts. Actually, it's based on something hypothetical. Even if Kobe did play in Jordan's era and did average 40 points, I'll just "hypothetically" argue that Jordan would have shut Kobe down as he did to all other competition.


If you do a talent and skill valuation through film study, Kobe is without a doubt more skilled.

Legacy wise jordan will always have the edge due to media awards and the hype he rode on.

There were so many differences in Jordan's era and Kobe's. Jordan had the advantage of getting easier shots, meanwhile Kobe was harassed by help defense everywhere he went throughout his career.


All I'm saying is, one can make a sound argument that Kobe as a basketball player is just as good, if not better than Jordan. Not legacy, basketball player.
 

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If you do a talent and skill valuation through film study, Kobe is without a doubt more skilled.

Legacy wise jordan will always have the edge due to media awards and the hype he rode on.

There were so many differences in Jordan's era and Kobe's. Jordan had the advantage of getting easier shots, meanwhile Kobe was harassed by help defense everywhere he went throughout his career.


All I'm saying is, one can make a sound argument that Kobe as a basketball player is just as good, if not better than Jordan. Not legacy, basketball player.
You had a better chance of arguing that Lebron is a better "basketball player" than MJ. Basketball is more than just offense and your whole "without a doubt more skilled" is way off. If Kobe was better, or even arguably better, he would have more than one league MVP, at least one defensive player of the year award, and would have a higher career field goal percentage.

If Kobe had more "skill" why is his career FG% lower?
 
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All I'm saying is, one can make a sound argument that Kobe as a basketball player is just as good, if not better than Jordan. Not legacy, basketball player.

No you cannot unless you're a dimwit
 

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Ppl regret to realize that kobe played in a west that was statistically tougher to reach the finals in.
True, but this thread is about points and how that strengthens the Kobe argument. If Kobe was in the East, he would have had less points and more wear on his body. 19 seasons in the East? probably not
 

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True, but this thread is about points and how that strengthens the Kobe argument. If Kobe was in the East, he would have had less points and more wear on his body. 19 seasons in the East? probably not


Doubt it, when kobe played the east was good for maybe 3 yrs. Other than that it was the west.
 

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Doubt it, when kobe played the east was good for maybe 3 yrs. Other than that it was the west.
Doubt what? That Kobe would score less? Of course he would. The eastern conference games are/were slower and more defensive minded. That means fewer possessions than the run-and-gun western conference.
 

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IM TALKIN PRIME FOR PRIME, NOT CAREERS RETARD....KOBE SPENT YEARS OF HIS PRIME PLAYIN WIT SMUSH PARKER AND KWAME BROWN, WHILE MJ HAD THE LUXURY OF PLAYIN WITH SCOTTIE AND PHIL THROUGHOUT HIS ENTIRE PRIME. KOBES AVERAGES ARE ALSO SKEWED BY THE FACT THAT HE CAME OUTA HIGH SCHOOL AND WASNT HANDED THE KEYS TO THE FRANCHISE RIGHT OFF THE BAT. YOU SUCK DICC AT DEBATING, STICK TO SNITCHING SON.
Didn't read. Reported for spam. I suggest the rest of the coli does the same
 
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