INTERESTING STAT IN KOBE VS. JORDAN DEBATE.

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theGoldmangod said:
Uh, nah.

I saw him play and even for nikkas who didn't see him play, statistics back up the fact that he's the GOAT when you put his up against your favorite player's favorite player's. It is what it is breh :yeshrug:
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DID U SEE OSCAR ROBERTSON PLAY? DID U SEE MAGIC IN HIS PRIME? DID U SEE WILT? BASED ON STATISTICS, WILT IS THE GOAT...JORDAN SIMPLY CAME IN DURING AN ERA WHERE MARKETING TOOK OVER THE LEAGUE, AND HE WAS THE NBA'S GOLDEN CHILD. NOT SAYIN HE'S NOT ONE OF THE GOATS...BUT ONLY COMMERCIALLY INFLUENCED FANS SAY HE'S THE GOAT HEAD-AND-SHOULDERS ABOVE THE REST, BECAUSE THATS WHAT SPACEJAM AND NIKE TOLD EM.
 
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Sccit said:
SO U JUST GUNA POST ALL THAT BS, BASED AROUND THE NOTION THAT KOBE WAS ONLY A BETTER THREE POINT SHOOTER (ALSO, LETS TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT JORDAN PLAYED 3 SEASONS WHERE THE THREE POINT LINE WAS SHORTENED LMAO), AND COMPLETELY IGNORE THAT KOBE WAS ALSO A BETTER FREE-THROW SHOOTER? FACE IT..KOBE HAS A BETTER STROKE. THERES NO ONE WHO UNDERSTANDS BASKETBALL THAT CLAIMS OTHERWISE...BUT KEEP SPREADING MISINFORMATION AND GETTING THE SIMPLE FOLKS TO BUY IN. I SEE U.
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Did I not just bring out shot charts and stats from entire playoffs and seasons in which it's been PROVEN that Jordan's mid-range percentage hung around 46-50%??? Did you not see that Kobe's very best year from mid-range was 45%, meaning it was lower than many of Jordan's years?

Also did I not relent that Kobe was in fact a better three-point shooter than Michael Jordan? But you ignored everything else that I posted and went straight to that. You're failing to acknowledge that Michael Jordan has some of the best metrics from 10-18 feet EVER recorded since the start of the 1990's. Kobe does not surpass or tie Jordan in mid-range shooting, which makes this more of a contest than you'd like to admit. Since you'd like to ignore finishes at the basket (which, conveniently, Jordan has an edge in also), all we have to compare and debate about is mid-range shooting and three-point shooting. Three-point shooting does overall belong to Kobe (though it's not such a huge discrepancy that I'd pick Kobe over Jordan as an OVERALL shooter).

Also, I'd like to point out that Jordan was an improving three-point shooter since 1990, when threes became more acclimated into the game. He got to the point where you could not sag off and wait for him to drive or post up.

Jordan's three-point shooting from 1989-90 to 1992-93 (before the three-point line was shortened):

229/668 = 34.3%

Jordan in all years minus the shortened three-point years:

343/1189 = 28.8%

Jordan overall:

581/1778 = 32.7%

Now, let's go to Kobe's overall three-point shooting as a starter (since 1998-99):

1568/4723 = 33.2%

Only thing worth noting is volume, but the percentages are remarkably similar. Also it's getting really tedious to find all this in my favor only for you to yell over it and call it fake. Acknowledge what I'm actually saying before you post, this is why everything you've been saying has been getting reported for spam by others.
 
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Noah said:
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Did I not just bring out shot charts and stats from entire playoffs and seasons in which it's been PROVEN that Jordan's mid-range percentage hung around 46-50%??? Did you not see that Kobe's very best year from mid-range was 45%, meaning it was lower than many of Jordan's years?

Also did I not relent that Kobe was in fact a better three-point shooter than Michael Jordan? But you ignored everything else that I posted and went straight to that. You're failing to acknowledge that Michael Jordan has some of the best metrics from 10-18 feet EVER recorded since the start of the 1990's. Kobe does not surpass or tie Jordan in mid-range shooting, which makes this more of a contest than you'd like to admit. Since you'd like to ignore finishes at the basket (which, conveniently, Jordan has an edge in also), all we have to compare and debate about is mid-range shooting and three-point shooting. Three-point shooting does overall belong to Kobe (though it's not such a huge discrepancy that I'd pick Kobe over Jordan as an OVERALL shooter).

Also, I'd like to point out that Jordan was an improving three-point shooter since 1990, when threes became more acclimated into the game. He got to the point where you could not sag off and wait for him to drive or post up.

Jordan's three-point shooting from 1989-90 to 1992-93 (before the three-point line was shortened):

229/668 = 34.3%

Jordan in all years minus the shortened three-point years:

343/1189 = 28.8%

Jordan overall:

581/1778 = 32.7%

Now, let's go to Kobe's overall three-point shooting as a starter (since 1998-99):

1568/4723 = 33.2%

Only thing worth noting is volume, but the percentages are remarkably similar. Also it's getting really tedious to find all this in my favor only for you to yell over it and call it fake. Acknowledge what I'm actually saying before you post, this is why everything you've been saying has been getting reported for spam by others.
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U THE ONE WHO SAID KOBE IS ONLY BETTER AT SHOOTING THREES, WHEN THE STATISTICS SHOW THAT HE'S A BETTER FREE THROW SHOOTER AS WELL. SO QUIT SPREADING MISINFORMATION IF U WANT UR STATS TO BE TAKEN SERIOUS....AT THE END OF THE DAY, THOSE STATS OF JORDAN SHOOTING BETTER FROM MID-RANGE DONT PROVE shyt, OTHER THAN MY INITIAL POINT- DEFENSES WERE NOT AS COMPLICATED IN JORDAN'S DAY AS THEY WERE IN KOBE'S...BECAUSE AS KOBE'S FREE THROW AND THREE POINT PERCENTAGE INDICATE, KOBE CLEARLY HAS BETTER FORM ON HIS SHOT. SO WHAT WOULD LEAD TO JORDAN SHOOTING A HIGHER PERCENTAGE IN MID-RANGE SITUATIONS? COMMON SENSE WOULD TELL U THAT IT'S THE LACK OF DEFENSE...DUE TO THE ZONE RULES IMPLEMENTED IN THE EARLY 00'S, KOBE HAS BEEN SWARMED BY DOUBLE AND TRIPLE TEAMS THAT WERE ILLEGAL BACK IN JORDAN'S DAY THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER. SERIOUSLY, IF U WATCH HIGHLIGHTS OF BOTH PLAYER, IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS WHICH PLAYER HAD IT EASIER IN TERMS OF OPPOSING DEFENSE....SO IN ESSENCE, UR STATS ARE WORKING AGAINST U, BECAUSE WHEN OPEN, KOBE CLEARLY SHOWS TO HAVE THE BETTER STROKE...LOL.
 
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Sccit said:
DID U SEE OSCAR ROBERTSON PLAY? DID U SEE MAGIC IN HIS PRIME? DID U SEE WILT? BASED ON STATISTICS, WILT IS THE GOAT...JORDAN SIMPLY CAME IN DURING AN ERA WHERE MARKETING TOOK OVER THE LEAGUE, AND HE WAS THE NBA'S GOLDEN CHILD. NOT SAYIN HE'S NOT ONE OF THE GOATS...BUT ONLY COMMERCIALLY INFLUENCED FANS SAY HE'S THE GOAT HEAD-AND-SHOULDERS ABOVE THE REST, BECAUSE THATS WHAT SPACEJAM AND NIKE TOLD EM.
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Either way it ain't Kobe nikka :yeshrug:
 
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