Worse than mediocre for over 10years. Just terrible. He completely ruins songs..see TLOP
Internet Forums are the only place where I see Swizz Beatz being classified as a mediocre producer
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coming from a dude with garbage rep and inverse dap ratio
Why would you of all people care about that kinda shyt?
I CAN GIVE 2 SHIITS BOUT FORUM TITLED, JUS SAYIN I CAN SEE WHY IN THIS SITUATION
Larry Lambo
Superstar
I like Swizz but he's definitely polarizing.
Roland Coltrane
Superstar
if we're talking strictly hip hop I can definitely see him being above neptunes and timbaland
like somebody mentioned before, a lot of the cats doing the hating weren't around when he was at his peak
that being said, if I see he produced a track on a project I'm definitely anticipating it
when he's off he's really off, but when he's on he makes legit bangers, no ifs, ands, or buts about it
Roland Coltrane
Superstar
but hip hop is the art of making something from nothing
nah, in all seriousness it's part of hip hop's aesthetic, DNA even to make due with what you have. it's quite literally a large part of how the culture started because they were taking music programs and instruments out of schools back then
if the nikka didn't have the record knowledge of a Premier or Pete Rock and still managed to make shyt that sounded good to people more power to him.
I honestly think it's bullshyt to compare him to Metro Boomin or any of these other trap producers(not saying you did) because Swizz' overall production discography speaks for itself. them nikkas have a WAYYYYYYYS to go before you can even throw them in the same category as him
Greenhornet
A God Among Kings
but hip hop is the art of making something from nothing
nah, in all seriousness it's part of hip hop's aesthetic, DNA even to make due with what you have. it's quite literally a large part of how the culture started because they were taking music programs and instruments out of schools back then
if the nikka didn't have the record knowledge of a Premier or Pete Rock and still managed to make shyt that sounded good to people more power to him.
I honestly think it's bullshyt to compare him to Metro Boomin or any of these other trap producers(not saying you did) because Swizz' overall production discography speaks for itself. them nikkas have a WAYYYYYYYS to go before you can even throw them in the same category as him
nah its the fact that he has 100 million and still uses a 100$ keyboard ... thats not making due with "what you have"
thats disrespectful to make fans buy and listen to when your resources are way beyond that. The dude knows how to make a good beat, he just does it as cheaply ass possible and disregards music or fans in general
listen to that wack ass game song - "scream on em"
if we're talking strictly hip hop I can definitely see him being above neptunes and timbaland
like somebody mentioned before, a lot of the cats doing the hating weren't around when he was at his peak
that being said, if I see he produced a track on a project I'm definitely anticipating it
when he's off he's really off, but when he's on he makes legit bangers, no ifs, ands, or buts about it
Nah, Swizz levels below Timbaland and The Neptunes. Both have more legendary Hip Hop productions than Swizz Beatz. "Superthug" and "Banned From T.V." exist on the same album, and "Superthug" made much more of an impact than "Banned". That's taking nothing away from "Banned From T.V.", but "Superthug" was next level. N.O.R.E. didn't even have to say anything on that beat. Same goes for what Timbaland did with "nikka What nikka Who" which again stands alongside another one of Swizz's best, but that beat again threw people for a loop. It was a beat that people didn't know what do with, but were
at the same time. And that's just for starters. That's not getting into "Grindin" or "Big Pimpin'".Swizz is underrated and gets more hate than he deserves. He's a legend in his own right, but he ain't seeing those two on his best day.
youre just making up excuses & running with them breh.
swizz did 1 beat on DMX 1st album and it was the most popular beat on the whole LP.
and dame grease is a great producer, btw.
Nah, Swizz levels below Timbaland and The Neptunes. Both have more legendary Hip Hop productions than Swizz Beatz. "Superthug" and "Banned From T.V." exist on the same album, and "Superthug" made much more of an impact than "Banned". That's taking nothing away from "Banned From T.V.", but "Superthug" was next level. N.O.R.E. didn't even have to say anything on that beat. Same goes for what Timbaland did with "nikka What nikka Who" which again stands alongside another one of Swizz's best, but that beat again threw people for a loop. It was a beat that people didn't know what do with, but were
Swizz is underrated and gets more hate than he deserves. He's a legend in his own right, but he ain't seeing those two on his best day.
those timbo & neptunes beats were not as impactful as "banned from tv" & "money, cash, hoes"
you buggin.
timbo & neptunes are commercial producers breh. i'll give you grindin tho. that's when the neptunes started to get taken seriously as rap producers. that clipse album.
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THE TRUTH DOESNT NEED AN EXCUSE, IF POORLY CONSTRUCTED CASIO BEATS IS YOUR THING, HANDLE THAT PLAYBOY .. BUT DONT SIT HERE N MOCK OUR INTELLIGENCE BY ACTIN LIKE SOMETHIN IS BETTER JUS CUZ ITS BIGGER..
Yes, they were more impactful than those Swizz joints. Timbo, The Neptunes, and Swizz are all commercial producers. Commercial =/= Poppy. They were commercial because they all ended up being go to producers for hit singles (whether it targeted the clubs or the streets, or both). All three had their street joints, but they also had joints that were more commercial. "Love Is Blind", "Gotta Man", and "Girls Best Friend" are softer than most of what Timbo and The Neptunes were putting out at the time.
Those songs did have a bigger impact than what Swizz was doing at the time. And those aren't the only ones. "Superthug" gave The Neptunes their credibility, not "Grindin". Before "Superthug", they just had the Mase joint ("Lookin' At Me"), a Lox remix ("If You Thing I'm Jiggy"), and some R&B records. After "Superthug", they were lacing everybody from ODB to Jay Z to Mystikal to Luda. "Grindin" was the beat that had everybody imitating the beat on school desks and lunchroom tables everywhere. It was also one of those beats that everybody wanted to freestyle on.
Same goes for Timbaland. He was doing joints for Lil' Kim ("Money Talks"), Beanie Sigel ("In The Club"), Memphis Bleek ("Is That Your Chick"), Jay Z ("Come And Get Me", "nikka What nikka Who", "It's Hot").
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wheres all the shut-down dj quik beats?
that's what it comes down to.
where they at?
lol. no they weren't as impactful as swizz beatz. youre playing yourself.
timbaland barely has any street bangers in his 20 year career. neptunes didn't get any until the clipse.
"love is blind" is not soft. that's a serious ass song breh. you had to dig deep for those other 2 tracks that aren't signature swizz productions at all. meanwhile, those type of beats are indeed signature productions for the neptunes & timbaland. see the difference?
superthug, that mase song, the LOX song that they still get clowned for to this day. all that chit is commercial candy breh. the goofy ODB record, jay only went to neptunes & timbo for radio chit. that should tell you it all. Ludacris? lol. the mystikal run where mystikal alienated his core audience?
COME ON BREH. theres a clear difference between the type of impact that these producers have. you can try to focus on the few soft swizz beats from back then, and the few timbo & neptunes street bangers from back then all you want.
Rayzah
I'm Everywhere you ain't never there
looking over his catalog in retrospect.....alot of his shyt sounds good today, back then....not so much
he still has alot of terrible beats though....shyt like Memph Bleek Is and Money Cash Hoes is
nikka you are crazy, you probably confusing that song with something else
Dushane Hill
Superstar
You ever heard this album?? He's no Kanye nor is he an Alchemist, Rza, or a Pete Rock because atleast they can make a solo album thats worth listening to.
Damn forgot about this, was solid. Loved the artwork, I bought this when i was like 14/15 because of the cover.
wheres all the shut-down dj quik beats?
that's what it comes down to.
where they at?
lol. no they weren't as impactful as swizz beatz. youre playing yourself.
timbaland barely has any street bangers in his 20 year career. neptunes didn't get any until the clipse.
"love is blind" is not soft. that's a serious ass song breh. you had to dig deep for those other 2 tracks that aren't signature swizz productions at all. meanwhile, those type of beats are indeed signature productions for the neptunes & timbaland. see the difference?
superthug, that mase song, the LOX song that they still get clowned for to this day. all that chit is commercial candy breh. the goofy ODB record, jay only went to neptunes & timbo for radio chit. that should tell you it all. Ludacris? lol. the mystikal run where mystikal alienated his core audience?
Yes, they were more impactful. That's almost undeniable. "Superthug" pretty much made N.O.R.E.'s solo career. "nikka What nikka Who" had people clamoring for their producers to make beats like that. The Neptunes and Timbaland aren't some run of the mill Hip Hop producers.
"Love is Blind" as a beat is soft. You don't have to dig deep for "Gotta Man" or "Girl's Best Friend". Both came out during Swizz's prime. They are well known.
In regard to Jay, you could say he went to Swizz for the same thing. I mean, there's the Swizzy produced track on Vol. 3 that features Mariah Carey.
The Lox don't get clowned for the remix, they get clowned for the original. The Neptunes remix of that song is far harder than the version that most people know and loathe. "Got Your Money" isn't the only ODB song produced by The Neptunes. They had other songs on that album.
LOL at Jay Z only going to The Neptunes for radio songs. Aside from "Big Pimpin", the rest of the Timbo productions on Vol. 3 are street records.