I think this forum has been posted before. It dates all the way back to the 90s and you can see what people thought about historic events in real time. nikkas really hated 2pac, who woulda thought. Just look at this shyt, on the day he died!
Again, I said _die hard Nas fans_. When I say die hard Nas fans, yes I mean the purists. That is my point! Purists didn't herald it to be the classic that some PURISTS TODAY herald it to have been. Of course the album was successful and sold a million back then. Nas reached a lot of mainstream fans BECAUSE he didn't make a dusty Illmatic part 2. He made the RIGHT move. I personally enjoy IWW more than Illmatic. But why can't I make my point that the Stretch & Bobbito, Stress Magazine, Sway & Tech, Nuyorican Poets Cafe crowd were disappointed with IWW? Any time I say anything remote like this, dudes get defensive and say it's absolutely not true, that everyone loved it across the board and if anyone didn't like it, they were just tiny small circle of young internet Joe Rogan cacs? LOL. The truth is, a lot of heads were disappointed with it, in all purist circles, not just whiteboys on their .edu internet in college. I'm not disrespecting any people on this board, the album, Nas, his fans.. not anyone. I just know what I recall from back then and I know I'm not exaggerating.
You 100% correct but I think 5-10% of the IWW audience had 90% of the voice especially online and that's why the debate persist
Good points yeah pac was a megastar ppl forget how good he was at acting it’s hard to make a current comparison to Tupac because he was good at everything rapping acting poetry even his interviews would sound like some malcom x interviews he was everything and more which even tho some ppl say he wasn’t super lyrical the average person can’t get overly complex stuff pac made sure everyone could get it
RAW? The wrestling show RAW?Seems like internet forums back then were nothing more than whiners and complainers. A lot of Simpsons episodes from back then were trashed when they came out, then reappraised as classics a couple years later.
And yeah, I could definitely buy the idea that a lot of (older) people hated Pac back then. They made a joke on RAW about him getting shot while he was fighting for his life in the hospital.
Big facts illmattic came out when rap didn’t really embrace commercial shyt like that so when iww came out ppl thought the lauryn hill record was too mainstream they thought nas was the next rakim after illmattic so good points on all the above but these convos ain’t for everybody I think before getting into those discussions you need to ask if the person is from New York and what age they are because a lot of ppl found nas at different times thru different albums but your 100% correct
i Thought revisionist history only applied to Jay Z lol
@ people acting surprised some people didn’t like Pac. That whole beef had people choosing sides. You either hated or loved PAC at the time. It was something like when 50 was hot.
Big facts and he died in Vegas so it was crazy here there was a club out here that suge use to own 662 that later became Sro/club 702 I did not give a fukk what they renamed it I always felt there was a bad energy there and refused to go thereTruth, there was peer pressure to choose sides
And plenty clung to it after they passed. Feel like most got over that though and recognized the greatness of both
