IRAN PROTESTS; Ex-Iranian president Ahmadinejad arrested

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You my breh Tech, but I gotta disagree with this take. This would be the case if this was only confined to Tehran where the country’s elite and wealth are concentrated. We see protests all across the county and in poor provincial towns, in the very places that are supposedly the backbone of the revolution. It’s still too small to say it will overthrow anything but the geographic spread of this ( unlike 2009 where it was the elites you refer to) is definitely scaring the people in charge.

I was sipping on that haterade a bit in that post but my point stands, as long as the IRGC and the Basiji stand with the govt, aint shyt happenin

The biggest military entity within the country will never abandon the Islamic Republic. This makes revolutionary Iran much different than the Shah, Mobarak etc where the army either stepped in and facilitated the transfer of power or refused to involve itself at all
 

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Watching this video from protest in Ahwaz ( region next to Iraq with Arabs) and it’s interesting that their Arabic dialect is a Gulf one.

There’s always been residual animositiy towards the state in this region so not necessarily unprecedented, but still another example that these protests so far have been very much working class.


My understanding is, that Khuzestani Arabic is very similar to the Iraqi dialect
 

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I was sipping on that haterade a bit in that post but my point stands, as long as the IRGC and the Basiji stand with the govt, aint shyt happenin

The biggest military entity within the country will never abandon the Islamic Republic. This makes revolutionary Iran much different than the Shah, Mobarak etc where the army either stepped in and facilitated the transfer of power or refused to involve itself at all
Fair point and I agree with your analysis. The coercive power of the IRI wont be overthrown through protests, but nonetheless the Goverment must be alarmed by the geographic scale of the protests so far. If it continues or grows, they'll likely face serious repression though.
 

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I see the flamewar going on and all but quick question: who the hell would takeover Iran if the Ayatollahs fell? MEK :laff::laff:? I guess some dreamers in LA think the Shah's son will be welcome back there? This is a huge concern because leaderless opposition overthrowing goverments have a shytty transition. IRGC might take them all out anyway :francis:
 

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I was sipping on that haterade a bit in that post but my point stands, as long as the IRGC and the Basiji stand with the govt, aint shyt happenin

The biggest military entity within the country will never abandon the Islamic Republic. This makes revolutionary Iran much different than the Shah, Mobarak etc where the army either stepped in and facilitated the transfer of power or refused to involve itself at all

I was thinking the same thing. Are the actual dudes the barracks though as diehard as the IRGC al-Quds kool-aid drinkers?
 

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@FAH1223 @4d 6f 6e 65 79

I see the flamewar going on and all but quick question: who the hell would takeover Iran if the Ayatollahs fell? MEK :laff::laff:? I guess some dreamers in LA think the Shah's son will be welcome back there? This is a huge concern because leaderless opposition overthrowing goverments have a shytty transition. IRGC might take them all out anyway :francis:
I don't know how you get MORE radical, to be honest. Iran's leadership has done so much fukkery over the last 40 years theres no way to know.

It can't get worse IMO.
 

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Fair point and I agree with your analysis. The coercive power of the IRI wont be overthrown through protests, but nonetheless the Goverment must be alarmed by the geographic scale of the protests so far. If it continues or grows, they'll likely face serious repression though.
The protest are are widespread however it is not massive like the Green Revolution back in 2009. Read a tweet where the Iranian police has turned down help from the Basij because they feel they have the situation is under control. Now I think the reason the Basij has not unleashed is that Rouhani is moderate and does not want this to spiral out of control. Second yes the protest are widespread but the regime does not feet threatened like they did in 2009. And also the movement has no unified leadership or unified platform. If this last into the weekend then we may have a movement. If anything this could be a boon for Rouhani who can now pass the reforms he wants. This could be a great opportunity for the reformers unless Trump does something stupid.
 
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I don't know how you get MORE radical, to be honest. Iran's leadership has done so much fukkery over the last 40 years theres no way to know.

It can't get worse IMO.

If KSA wins this little spat I think we can find out how much worse the region can get. Anyway, if Iran loses power it is a free for all for Russia, China, US, KSA. etc. Not sure that would bring more stability. Look at the shyt show in Syria.
 

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The protest are are widespread however it is not massive like the Green Revolution back in 2009. Read a tweet where the Iranian police has turned down help from the Basij because they feel they have the situation is under control.

Am I wrong or are all these young, liberal revolution attempts doomed unless they get the conservative countryside masses to back them as well? I respect students protesting but they need a more broad based movement like Khomeini had to bring down the house, no?
 
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