IRAN PROTESTS; Ex-Iranian president Ahmadinejad arrested

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Am I wrong or are all these young, liberal revolution attempts doomed unless they get the conservative countryside masses to back them as well? I respect students protesting but they need a more broad based movement like Khomeini had to bring down the house, no?
The protest is the working class. They were the ones who voted against Rouhani in the last elections because since sanctions were lifted their economic situations has not improved. The liberals voted for Rouhani. To truly bring down the regime both of them has to join forces. The Green Revolution was mostly lead by urban secular Iranians. And as @thatknickfan said you have ethnic minorities are protesting. How far will this movement go it depends. But from the looks of it the same Green Revolution forces are not backing this movement. The reason is because they fear instability.
 

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Some of the shyt I see on Twitter got me like :patrice::hubie: cuz I dunno whether to take folks for their word especially when folks are being reactionary and frankly only those there know what's happening. Everything seems so muddy when it comes to info about the ME and unrest.

Case in point this thread



There's this too

 
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I was thinking the same thing. Are the actual dudes the barracks though as diehard as the IRGC al-Quds kool-aid drinkers?

I'm sure not everyone is a die hard Shia but when you factor in the following :

- hardcore Shias (not all of whom are Iranian :sas1:) who subscribe to the Vilayat E Faqih system of govt
- IRGC elite and their families and patronage networks
- business class who have ties to the ruling elite
- common man who for all his economic grievances wants stability more than anything
- common man who, for all of the regimes faults, understands that reform has happened at a slow gradual pace and its best to let things develop

I dont see this regime being in serious trouble at all
 

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Some of the shyt I see on Twitter got me like :patrice::hubie: cuz I dunno whether to take folks for their word especially when folks are being reactionary and frankly only those there know what's happening. Everything seems so muddy when it comes to info about the ME and unrest.

Case in point this thread



There's this too


You do realize both photo and video are from state media right? The video is literally made by the IRGC. A quick look through that account shows dude is spinning his a$$ off.
 

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I'm sure not everyone is a die hard Shia but when you factor in the following :

- hardcore Shias (not all of whom are Iranian :sas1:) who subscribe to the Vilayat E Faqih system of govt
- IRGC elite and their families and patronage networks
- business class who have ties to the ruling elite
- common man who for all his economic grievances wants stability more than anything
- common man who, for all of the regimes faults, understands that reform has happened at a slow gradual pace and its best to let things develop

I dont see this regime being in serious trouble at all
Iranians hate nothing more than being compared to Arabs, but you can draw some parallels to Syria and Egypt from the points you raised.
 

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Iran Lashes Out at Its Enemies, at Home and Abroad, Amid Protests
By THOMAS ERDBRINKJAN. 4, 2018

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A pro-government rally in the northeastern city of Mashhad, Iran, on Thursday. Nima Najafzadeh/Tasnim News Agency, via Associated Press
TEHRAN — Members of Iran’s ruling establishment took turns on Thursday assigning blame for what they regard as an embarrassing outbreak of protests this week in more than 80 cities across the country.

Iran’s chief prosecutor elaborated on the government’s claims that the United States and its allies were responsible for stirring up the violent protests. The United States, Israel and Saudi Arabia planned the “riots,” the prosecutor, Mohammad Jafar Montazeri, said on state television, in an effort to “subvert the Iranian government.

“The U.S., the Zionist regime and the Al Sauds were the three sides of this subversive plan, and Saudi Arabia committed to provide money for it,” Mr. Montazeri said. :laff:


Iran’s mission to the United Nations also sent a letter to the Security Council on Wednesday complaining about “acts of intervention” by the Trump administration, citing as evidence the president’s Twitter posts in support of the protests.

“The president and vice president of the United States, in their numerous absurd tweets, incited Iranians to engage in disruptive acts,” the letter read.

The Islamic State also played a role, Mr. Montazeri said without explaining precisely how. He also called on clerics in the holy city of Qum to support the judiciary in a permanent ban on the messenger app Telegram, now closed in Iran. “It’s a disaster,” Mr. Montazeri said of the social media tool.

Government officials also blamed internal enemies for instigating the protests, with the leader of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps seeming to imply that a former hard-line president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, was involved.

Whatever Mr. Ahmadinejad’s role, Iran’s reformist faction has accused hard-liners in the city of Mashhad of organizing the first protests to create political problems for Iran’s moderate president, Hassan Rouhani. And hard-liners have, in turn, accused Mr. Rouhani of publicizing sensitive parts of his proposed budget in a calculated move to turn ordinary people against religious institutions.

“They all blame each other,” said Nader Karimi Joni, a reformist journalist. “What else can they do?”

The death toll from the clashes rose to at least 21, and in the central province of Esfahan, a police officer was reported killed.

The United States State Department on Thursday released a new statementdenouncing the government and expressing support for the protesters. “We condemn in the strongest possible terms the deaths to date and the arrests of at least one thousand Iranians,” it said, adding, “To the regime’s victims, we say: You will not be forgotten.”

The protests, meanwhile, seemed to be winding down, though there is no sure way to tell. Fewer videos of purported demonstrations appeared on social media Thursday. But many sites have been blocked, possibly obscuring the true extent of the protests.

Iran’s government routinely filters websites and apps it deems inappropriate or dangerous, and Twitter and Facebook have been blocked since the 2009 antigovernment protests. The prosecutor said that about a million pages on social media had been banned by the authorities, but complained that the pages “mushroom under new names and colors despite more than 15,000 of them being blocked every week.”
 

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You do realize both photo and video are from state media right? The video is literally made by the IRGC. A quick look through that account shows dude is spinning his a$$ off.
:hubie: That's why I asked. Some folks are being reactionary and in support of the government strictly due to the support for the protesters from neocons.
 
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