Is Carmelo our generations Benard King?

[Youngdev]

As a Melo fan him being in the same category as nique and alot of other high scoring small forwards is fine with me.

Them dudes are great nba players and in the hall of fame.

You can't say Melo is in the same category as those players then say shyt like he is a scrub and not respected.... Fukk outta here

Are those guys not respected?

 

[Illeye buckmatic]

He was very close to being traded to the Nets, the Knicks had to make a move. Amare was hurt majority of his tenure with NYK, let's not forget homie taking himself out of the playoff series against Miami because he punched a fire extinguisher case.


What talent? We got Felton back, and he's one of leagues worst guards. Chandler & Gallinari are FAR from all-star players & have been very injury prone. Gallo hasn't played over 75 games since his 2nd year. And Mozgov isn't & wasn't better that Tyson Chandler or Robin Lopez.

that no talent landed y'all a superstar. That could've been used to trade for another star after memo signed via free agency

 

[okgoodnotgreat]

I agree that he should have waited and signed with NY rather than push for the trade.

But let's be honest here.
It wasn't like the players the Knicks traded for Melo would have been all that great. Most were "meh" at best.

The only real opportunity he passed up was Chicago. And look at that franchise now.

To me, it's

- Signing the 5 year deal in Denver the first time
- Demanding the trade for the Knicks (and really, the 3-year extension in the previous CBA)
- Re-signing with the Knicks this last time for the max.

All three times he took the money over "winning," which is annoying as a fan of his.

I disagree on the Knicks trade. It's not just the players, but the picks and cheap players around him. You don't make that trade, you have guys like Chandler, Gallo (pre-injuries) etc who could've had value in other deals. Not to mention, the 7th pick in this year's draft, which could've been nice to build with.

I actually still think that CHI team would've been nice with him. Him and Butler as playmakers, Melo as a 3/4 shooter next to Niko, pressure off of Rose.


I agree (I think) with Melo not having much help, but he did this to himself, which is a shame.

 

[NormanConnors]

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

that no talent landed y'all a superstar. That could've been used to trade for another star after memo signed via free agency

We wouldn't have had the cap room to sign him in the offseason

 

[Suleiman Bey]

As a Melo fan him being in the same category as nique and alot of other high scoring small forwards is fine with me.

Them dudes are great nba players and in the hall of fame.

You can't say Melo is in the same category as those players then say shyt like he is a scrub and not respected.... Fukk outta here

Are those guys not respected?

Wilkins, Dantley, King, Aguirre are all foor notes in history. It is a knock for Melo to be mentioned with them.

 

[#SOG_soldier]

Dirk did it because he's just flat out better. Plus he had a better coach with a system of players who were UNSELFISH.

I honestly don't think dirk is better I think they the same

Lol, we're talking about scoring. But he does average .8 more boards than Melo.

Okay I had no idea king was this good.

 

[Illeye buckmatic]

We wouldn't have had the cap room to sign him in the offseason

They couldve made a few more moves to try to clear extra space like others do. I know its asking alot but other teams have worked miracles

 

[K-ZOE]

Well, going by your definition, Melo I don't feel Melo is more athletic or faster than Bernard, powerful, yes. Bernard was faster on the break with/without the ball, better scorer in the post and much better FG%. Melo does have a better long range shot, handle and foot work off the dribble. Question, if Melo had all of those attributes over King, why couldn't he match prime King's 33ppg, in an much easier era to score? King scored his points in a tougher era (scoring-wise). I'm not discounting your opinion though.

You're either thinking of Melo now or completely sleeping on young Denver Melo's explosiveness. And giving my man BK a lil too much credit in that dept.

You have to put that 33 ppg in perspective. For one, despite it, his career scoring average of 22.5 is still lower than Melo's 25. The Knicks were ass in 85. There was nobody else to get buckets. The next leading scorer was a dude named Pat Cummings. Melo has never played on a team that bad where the next leading scorer was a Pat Cummings level player. If he had, in his prime I'm sure he could crack 33.

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

You're either thinking of Melo now or completely sleeping on young Denver Melo's explosiveness. And giving my man BK a lil too much credit in that dept.

You have to put that 33 ppg in perspective. For one, despite it, his career scoring average of 22.5 is still lower than Melo's 25. The Knicks were ass in 85. There was nobody else to get buckets. The next leading scorer was a dude named Pat Cummings. Melo has never played on a team that bad where the next leading scorer was a Pat Cummings level player. If he had, in his prime I'm sure he could crack 33.

Naw I'm not sleeping on young Melo, I'm comparing their primes. Career scoring averages will favor Melo because King was often injured, and that'll kill any average.

The reason King did drop 33 and Melo couldn't crack 30 has less to do with bad teammates and more to do with shot selection and FG%. Bernard didn't take bad shots, and for his career he shot .517 FG% and Melo shoots 45%.

at bringing up poor Pat Cummings (I remember him) but Melo did have a player who scored LESS than Cummings as the next leading scorer....JR Smith who in 2013-2014 scored 14.5 points while Cummings scored 15.8. Melo still only managed to score 27 per game, while King dropped 33 per game

Prime Melo just can't see prime King.

 

[JerseyFinest!]

To me, it's

- Signing the 5 year deal in Denver the first time
- Demanding the trade for the Knicks (and really, the 3-year extension in the previous CBA)
- Re-signing with the Knicks this last time for the max.

All three times he took the money over "winning," which is annoying as a fan of his.

I disagree on the Knicks trade. It's not just the players, but the picks and cheap players around him. You don't make that trade, you have guys like Chandler, Gallo (pre-injuries) etc who could've had value in other deals. Not to mention, the 7th pick in this year's draft, which could've been nice to build with.

I actually still think that CHI team would've been nice with him. Him and Butler as playmakers, Melo as a 3/4 shooter next to Niko, pressure off of Rose.


I agree (I think) with Melo not having much help, but he did this to himself, which is a shame.

I Agree he def took money over winning with the first 2 situations
Him coming to the Knicks and forcing a trade basically mid-season causing the the team to be stripped of it pieces falls on him

The Chi situation, not so much....ppl keep forgetting if he would've chose the Bulls, he would've went via S&T at minimum the Knicks were going to get Jimmy and McDermott

 

[NatiboyB]

I'm starting to think I was spot on.

 

[who_better_than_me]

Name another star player in the last 10-15 years who played with less talent around him than Carmelo Anthony.

Prolly TMac.

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

Still don't see how Melo carries that bum ass franchise to their first 50+ win season in fukking forever, then management and his teammates go to complete shyt around him immediately after, and it's his fault