Is Chris Paul Even A Top 5 NBA Point Guard Anymore?
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It's incredible how much Doc deconstructed that roster. The Bledsoe/Redikk trade was indefensible even when it happened. Same with how they dumped Dudley. How's that Collison to Farmar downgrade working out?He's definitely not worth that money but the real problem is Doc Rivers sh*t job as GM. The blotching of the Bledsoe and Dudley deals. Plus he gave the Bucks a first rounder just to get rid of Jared Dudley. That first rounder could've gotten us Jeff Green from the CelticsInstead of drafting Kyle Anderson or KJ McDaniels he takes another shooting guard who he won't play. Matter of fact he doesn't develop players whatsoever that's why outside of Blake and DJ we have no athletes and our roster is old as sh*t. Big Baby, Hedo, Farmar, CDR, Udoh=
They're not contributing and they have no trade value. Yeah CP3 and potentially DJ are hurting us in the cap department but truthfully its GM role that has failed us. You inherit Blake, CP3, DJ, and Crawford and you squander all our assets and put nothing but aging junk around the core. I get adding a vet or two who's "been there" but the rest of the roster should be nothing but young athletic studs. Look at all the athletes that OKC has surrounding Durant and Westbrook
Doc should've been on that sh*t. He's stuck in the past. Should've kept Vinny The Black
Nobody respected him but he could GM his ass off
He's up there with Billy King for worst GM in the league.
Tony D'Amato
It's all about the inches
Shut your cum filled mouf, fukk boiIt's incredible how much Doc deconstructed that roster. The Bledsoe/Redikk trade was indefensible even when it happened. Same with how they dumped Dudley. How's that Collison to Farmar downgrade working out?
He's up there with Billy King for worst GM in the league.
The way Ballmer ran Microsoft, we be fukked
Shut your cum filled mouf, fukk boi
The way Ballmer ran Microsoft, we be fukked
It's incredible how much Doc deconstructed that roster. The Bledsoe/Redikk trade was indefensible even when it happened. Same with how they dumped Dudley. How's that Collison to Farmar downgrade working out?
He's up there with Billy King for worst GM in the league.
Plus he let offensive guru Alvin Gentry leave and go to the rival Warriors. And there was a big monstrous 7 foot Euro named Radlijca that was part of the Dudley deal. He was sent over to us from Milwaukee. Doc releases him without even giving him a look over. Dude went on to have a really good FIBA tourny over the summer and would've been nice off the bench behind DJ for cheap. He was better than Big Baby and Udoh combined. But yeah its just been nothing but bad move after bad move after bad move left and right with this guy. We literally have no bench and our starters are gassed and its not even all star break yet.. Unreal
I'm far from a CP3 apologist but we're in a 8 games in 11 days type stretch right now. We have no bench and the starters are gassed beyond beliefCp3 looked like
Gil Scott-Heroin
Veteran
Blatantly selective?@ the blatantly selective statline.
Points per game, FG%, assists and turnovers are just generic stats to give a general picture.
You left out the part where Curry averaged 8.1 three-pointers a game, whereas Paul only averaged 5.5 three-pointers a game. By rule of thumb, it stands to reason that a player that shoots an exorbitant amount like EIGHT threes a game is going to have a lower percentage than a player that only shoots 5.5. And yet, despite shooting a lower 3PT%, Curry still managed to have the higher FG%. Go figure.
You wanna talk about being blatantly selective and bring up rebounds? Paul averaged 1.1 more rebounds. I fail to see how that had any real significance on the game at all. When 90+% of both of their rebounds came from weakside boards and scoop-ins when the opposition was already up the other end of the floor and they could get the offense going. Neither of them crash the boards, neither of them have much impact through rebounds.
You wanna talk about being blatantly selective and bring up 'plus-minus' and not only that, you make a fool of yourself further by also mentioning that Paul played seven less minutes. Well if Curry was on the floor at times that Paul wasn't on the floor, how does plus-minus even begin to give an accurate reading of what impact and output their teams had when each of them were on the floor at the same time. Then you fail to weigh into account that Curry also had to play with more combinations of lineups (lower chance of building momentum and regualrity with personnel) compared to Paul who played with a more starting 5-centric lineup when he was on the floor. You also failed to weigh into account that Crawford had multiple 20+ point games and Griffin had multiple 30+ point games, that would've drastically affected any positive +/- difference Curry had on the game. You also failed to weigh into account that Curry had to do more heavy lifting on offense than Paul, as he had the less-talented offensive team.
So you call me out for my blatantly selective stats, then you post two stats that I already mentioned and acknowledge me doing so. It begs the question how can you be left in hysterics from me being blatantly selective with the stats I provided, when 50% of the stats I gave you, you incorporated in your defense? How can I be so selective that leaves you LMAOing, saying even Jay-Z couldn't have spun it any better when half of the stats I provided are then echoed by you?
Yes, this does have a significance. However this all goes back to what I said earlier, Curry had to do more heavy lifting for his team and had more defensive attention than Paul did. And don't try and deprecate Curry's extra PPG like he took significant more attempts - he only took 2.7 more FGAs, yet had close to six more points. This is in addition to not only taking more attempts, but also remaining more efficient than Paul did despite having more of an offensive workload and increased rate of exhaustion by playing seven extra minutes.
Actually I recall neither of them having much of a defensive difference in that series. Paul couldn't contain Curry at all, and the occasional spurts that Curry was on Paul he didn't have much of an impact either. It was void. Paul only got the W, not because he outplayed Curry, but because the Clippers won just about every other matchup on the floor.
We all know he ain't the best anymore. Curry and Westbrook are clearly better. No debate at this point. Wall just passed him up this season in my opinion.
Chris Paul is 3rd at best, but he might not even be top 5 for long the way Lillard been playing lately and KYRIE in the mix too for the top 5.
Rose been lookin pretty good lately as well....
I personally got Paul right at 4 behind Lillard.
Anyways, on a side note, I can't wait until Curry exposes him tonight
I'll expect paul to try and make a statement though. Should be a good match up
you forgot about John Wall...
DoubleClutch
Superstar
I got wall third. He passed him this season. He might just lap him up before the season over
I got wall third. He passed him this season. He might just lap him up before the season over
How is Wall better than CP3? Nikkas keep saying this and I ain't getting it.
CP3 scores more PPG, on higher efficiency, posts a much better A:T ratio with only one less assist per game, and has a whopping .1 less RPG while leading his team to a similar record in a harder confrence.
Someone explain this to me.
Wall. I think Curry and Westbrook are playing better than he is but I'm struggling to see the argument for Wall when CP3 is still on another level offensively.
Bledswole
Slappin and clowning chumps for fun.
I mean you might actually have a point far as Wall goes,I think alot of people are just tried of seeing Chris Paul not go as far as he supposed to in the playoffs, so now they look for players who are better or on the verge of being better to put over him.
