Gil Scott-Heroin
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Incredibly skilled and high-IQ player who fell victim to his bad habits, and refusal to change his game.
Is Chris Paul just not as good as we think?
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DatNkkaCutty
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....Not a great scorer? FOH. He always been able to get buckets when needed. But like Nash before him...they always been too concerned with lettin other ppl get their shyt off instead of goin for self.... 
Much to their detriment. Nggas cant have it both ways. When AI was shootin too much at the point like an IT does now...everyone was sayin he needed to be a PG more in the vein of a Nash, Kidd, or Paul. Now nggas sayin CP3 needs to play closer to an IT or Westbrook 
It's all cp3 fault
Dude refuse to take between 20 to 25 shots a game...
He rather facilitate to guys who are below or average at best scorers than take over which leave his teams done
Dude refuse to take between 20 to 25 shots a game...
He rather facilitate to guys who are below or average at best scorers than take over which leave his teams done
Gil Scott-Heroin
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That's why it's all about finding the best balance of shoot/pass, to put your team in the best possible position of winning. CP3 apologists can't seem to grasp that concept.
Hence why he isn't a great scorer. The #1 requirement after actually having the skill to score is the desire to want to do it.
If a kid has a high IQ but gets C's in class because he refuses to study, that doesn't make him a good student.
He's good, he just suffers from being passive when it comes to scoring, being too much of an old school, pass first PG in a league that's been shifting towards the Combo Guard model since around 2011-2012, and a string of HORRENDOUS bad luck with injuries on his squad, his included.
What does New Orleans have to do with who he is today? Is he a great scorer TODAY?
You put him on the Celtics and they lose that game 2 because there's no way in hell he's scoring 53. I don't think you get it, the Celtics use Thomas off the ball a lot, more so than Chris Paul has ever played in his career. He has the ball 10-15% of the time more than Thomas despite the fact he plays with a playmaking PF. The Celtics don't need a player having the ball as much as Paul.
Some postseason failures were on him but his performances are often unfairly talked about as bad. The real issue is Doc as GM. The trash benches full of ancient veterans
Cp3 is coming off a game 7 where he had 13pts on 6-19....he didn't get crushed for that like others would have.
but cp3 makes everyone better
god shamgod
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Cp3 just averaged 25 ppg vs the #1 scoring defense in the nba which led both teams in scoring.Just admit you have an agenda, this narrative is false he raises his scoring every playoffs.
Comparing cp3 to i.t. makes no sense either, boston runs a system that emphasizes ball movement and horford facilitates their offense just as much as i.t does and they jack mad 3's.Clippers run pick n roll 90% of the time, the real issue has been docs coaching/gm ability he's sucks at both.
What false narrative? He's not a great scorer, if 25ppg is his ceiling that's not a great scorer, it's a good one. Nevermind the fact he laid an egg in game 7 and was thoroughly outplayed by George Hill in the final game. My agenda is simple, Chris Paul is overrated
Where did I compare them? I said a fact which is CP3 has the ball more than Thomas and scores less despite that fact. You place a ball dominant player into their system and it changes, not for the better either since they rely on the scoring from their PG. Horford is allowed to facilitate their offense, do you really think that would be the case if CP3 was there?
We're talking about a dude that doesn't even allow Blake to play his game.
god shamgod
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What false narrative? He's not a great scorer, if 25ppg is his ceiling that's not a great scorer, it's a good one. Nevermind the fact he laid an egg in game 7 and was thoroughly outplayed by George Hill in the final game. My agenda is simple, Chris Paul is overrated
Where did I compare them? I said a fact which is CP3 has the ball more than Thomas and scores less despite that fact. You place a ball dominant player into their system and it changes, not for the better either since they rely on the scoring from their PG. Horford is allowed to facilitate their offense, do you really think that would be the case if CP3 was there?
I never said he was a great scorer, He can & does score when he needs too and raises his scoring average in the playoffs every year.It's funny how you're dismissing 25 ppg vs a team that allowed 98ppg for the series cp3 was responsible for half the clippers offense without their leading scorer but that's not good enough for you.Game 7 he got hemmed up and the clippers got washed as a result.
So what? clippers were the 5th rated offense this season celtics 8th.Running the offense thru cp3 has been top 5 or no lower than 8th since cp3 been in los angeles.Including without blake griffin for chunks of the last 3 seasons.Who cares about his ball dominance when it's running efficient and elite offenses?
Well, I said he wasn't a great scorer and everyone seems to take exception to that even though we all know he's not a great scorer. I'm dismissing it because when it came down to it in game 7 he stunk it up.
The ball dominance comes back to bite them in the ass in the playoffs, because he has the ball even more. And Blake Griffin has looked like a completely different player when Paul has been out, that is the issue I have with the ball dominance too. You brought up Horford facilitating the offense, we know what Blake has looked like every single time Paul gets hurt or misses time and he's a completely different player, if Horford played with Paul he'd just be used as a screen & pop guy, the offense would not go through him at all.
He's simply not willing to change his game even the slightest bit to allow Blake to be more.