Is Donovan Mitchell a top 20 player?

[Elim Garak]

How is Kawhi listed? nikka more absent than Herschel Walker.

 

[BAMBA]

Maybe not, but once the playoffs start…

 

[mikishere]

definitely top 20 and better than everyone on the question mark list besides KAT. ill take him over klay and cp3 on the regular list.

recency bias is a bytch

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

definitely top 20 and better than everyone on the question mark list besides KAT. ill take him over klay and cp3 on the regular list.

recency bias is a bytch

He’s not better than Ant and don’t use raw numbers as the basis of your argument.

For the record, I’ve never been high on Mitchell like that and have been saying it for years so this isn’t new. I called him overrated in the thread years ago when people were calling Simmons the most overrated player in the league.

 

[BAMBA]

You know Mitchell is coming to New York when threads like this start to pop up…

 

[Slic Ric]

Ant? Nope
KAT? Nope
Murray? Nope
Harden? Current form Harden, nope
Derozan? Long term, yes
Lavine? Nope
Ingram? Nope
Zion? Nope
Lamelo? Nope
Beal? Debatable, but nope

His offense isn't all worldy enough to mask the fact that he's a below average defender and average as a defense. Even a poor defender like Trae Young is at least elite on offense and as a passer to help mask those deficiencies. I would take Jrue Holiday over Mitchell. Before dudes try and insist otherwise, Jrue Holiday outplayed Middleton this past season and you know damn well that you would take him over Mitchell.

I agree with all besides Jamal Murray

 

[ISO]

Ant? Nope
KAT? Nope
Murray? Nope
Harden? Current form Harden, nope
Derozan? Long term, yes
Lavine? Nope
Ingram? Nope
Zion? Nope
Lamelo? Nope
Beal? Debatable, but nope

His offense isn't all worldy enough to mask the fact that he's a below average defender and average as a defense. Even a poor defender like Trae Young is at least elite on offense and as a passer to help mask those deficiencies. I would take Jrue Holiday over Mitchell. Before dudes try and insist otherwise, Jrue Holiday outplayed Middleton this past season and you know damn well that you would take him over Mitchell.

Shameless Gobert stan

 

[MrSpook]

Absolutely.

Nikkas kill me with this defense shyt

Second thread I done seen nikkas hollering bout defense as if that sht really gets played by these boys in the league fr.

 

[The God Poster]

Absolutely.

Nikkas kill me with this defense shyt

You gone be crying in two years when you finally realize a backcourt of Mitchell/Brunson isn’t winning shyt

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Absolutely.

Nikkas kill me with this defense shyt

How about your team make the play-in tournament first before you try insisting what matters and what doesn't

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Second thread I done seen nikkas hollering bout defense as if that sht really gets played by these boys in the league fr.

In the playoffs defense matters and you'd be naive if you sat there and insisted otherwise. Look a lot of those teams that made it far into the playoffs and finals and see what they had in common.

 

[ISO]

You gone be crying in two years when you finally realize a backcourt of Mitchell/Brunson isn’t winning shyt

Never said they were.

And the reason they won’t win won’t be because of “defense”.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Never said they were.

And the reason they won’t win won’t be because of “defense”.

You're right. It will be that shytty offense y'all trot out there on the floor considering that both of those guys aren't passers like that to help properly orchestrate your offense long term.

 

[ISO]

How about your team make the play-in tournament first before you try insisting what matters and what doesn't

A good chunk of the players you named are not + defenders.

U are a Gobert stan

Lol at thinking Mitchell’s defense is the main reason they can’t advance.

 

[Jermio]

He not even top 45.