Is Drake on the same level as Jay Z?

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It has been proven that Drake doesn't write his own raps, how much no one really knows. We do know he had ghostwriters for full verses though. That right there alone means you cannot say Drake is better than Hov.
 

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Drake a better entertaitner
better live performer
better songs

Jayz is the better rapper

Jayz got no swag
No nikka u have no swag sayin shyt like that....Jay had Nikkas rockin iceberg, drinking champagne types and makin sure they ranges was 4.6's.....what trend has fukkin Drake started, puttin hoes on pedestales......u gotta be swaggerless nikka:mjlol:
 

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They on the same level when it comes to awkward & sus pictures
 
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It has been proven that Drake doesn't write his own raps, how much no one really knows. We do know he had ghostwriters for full verses though. That right there alone means you cannot say Drake is better than Hov.

His name should not be on any list related to hip hop. That nikka's a pop star.

Hip Hop is now in the hands of suburban cacs and cornball nikkas. That thread is just another proof.
 

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I don't agree. Jay-Z was never big. He was consistent.

50 Cent, Nelly, Eminem and Ja Rule were BIG. Jay-Z was just consistently dropping platinum or 2x platinum albums every year while they were doing 5x platinum, 8x platinum, so kill all that noise. Adjusted for downloading and people not buying records anymore, Drake IS on Ja/50/Nelly's level of popularity. Now that's speaking commercially. If you wanna talk about artistry, classic records and critical reception, then that's another argument and I'll agree Drake has nothing on Jay.

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Meh ja rule was bigger :troll:
 

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Video has got me comparing the two and I honestly cant think of a good reason why Drake won't see himself as the new Jay.

He has the wittiness of Jay in his lyrics

His flow is as good and in my opinion better than Jay

His catalogue is as good as Jay Z's when he was at the same stage

So is Drake right? Is he the new Jay?

I'm sure there are other similarities between the two that I have overlooked but I will let ya'll bring it up :jbhmm:

first off drake isn't a rapper and has NEVER dropped a rap album... the day jay-z puts 3-6 r&b songs with zero rapping on his albums, then we can compare catalogues


but ok for argument sake, i'll do them straight up... is anything drake done compare to reasonable doubt? fukk no... how about hard knock life? fukk no.. blueprint? dynasty? black album? no no no


classic songs... hell no... classic bars... hell no



lyrically now is a toss up... drake comes better on some songs when he really trying to spit.. but who's writing this shyt? but i'll still give it as even NOW.... but reasonable doubt, vol 1 jay? drake ain't seeing that at all.. and definitely wasn't when he was on his first two albums to compare



only thing drake does better than hov is make radio music
 

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Reasonable Doubt - Platinum
Vol. 1 - Platinum
Vol. 2 - 5x Platinum
Vol. 3 - 3x Platinum
Dynasty - 2x Platinum
Blueprint - 2x Platinum
Blueprint 2 - 3x Platinum
The Black Album - 3x Platinum
Kingdom Come - 2x Platinum
American Gangster - Platinum
Blueprint 3 - Platinum
Magna Carta Holy Grail - 2x Platinum

So what? I lived through the era. How old are you? Drake is the TOP ARTIST right now in hip hop. You're full of shyt if you think Jay-Z was the top artist back then. It was DMX in 98 and 99, Nelly in 2000, Ja Rule from 2001 to 2002, then 50 Cent took over....so when exactly was Jay-Z a mega superstar like Drake is right now? Don't answer me before saying how old you are.
 

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So what? I lived through the era. How old are you? Drake is the TOP ARTIST right now in hip hop. You're full of shyt if you think Jay-Z was the top artist back then. It was DMX in 98 and 99, Nelly in 2000, Ja Rule from 2001 to 2002, then 50 Cent took over....so when exactly was Jay-Z a mega superstar like Drake is right now? Don't answer me before saying how old you are.
How was DMX bigger than Jay in 98?
And Nelly and Ja were never in the same league as Jay. They were more pop oriented and not as respected.
And I'm 36.
 

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Jay went 5x Platinum with Vol 2. He was huge.

I see yall nikkas gonna play stupid. Okay.

I never said Jay-Z didn't sell records. I said....the way you see Drake being the undisputed top artist in rap.....Jay-Z never the undisputed top artist in rap. Like ever. But like I said....nikkas gonna play stupid like people didn't grow up in the era and can compare and contrast. In 1998, Eminem was selling 20 million records so how exactly was Jay-Z the biggest rapper :stopitslime: DMX sold 7 million records that year with two records, then another 6 million records in 99-2000 and then was in a bunch of popular hood movies like Exit Wounds, Belly and Romeo Must Die so to alot of people he was the more popular artist. Then Nelly sold 9 million records in 2000, then Ja Rule had 2000-2002 under his thumb, then 50 Cent came out in 2003 selling 12 million records. When exactly was Jay-Z the King the way you see Drake far and above the competition. When? Even in 1998 the year you brought up DMX was right there with him, if not past him, with Eminem selling 3x as much. You nikkas can't be objective to save your life.
 

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So what? I lived through the era. How old are you? Drake is the TOP ARTIST right now in hip hop. You're full of shyt if you think Jay-Z was the top artist back then. It was DMX in 98 and 99, Nelly in 2000, Ja Rule from 2001 to 2002, then 50 Cent took over....so when exactly was Jay-Z a mega superstar like Drake is right now? Don't answer me before saying how old you are.

:flabbynsick: (32), and have been listening to rap since 1987.

You never said anything about being the absolute top artist, only that he was never big at all, which is obvious bullshyt, and anyone who really lived through it would know better to ever try to pass that off as fact.


As said before, Vanilla Ice was the top rap artist at one point too. Doesn't mean he should have been compared to cats like LL, Rakim, and Big Daddy Kane.
 

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DMX's biggest selling album: 6x platinum (7x platinum on two albums in 98)
Ja Rule's biggest selling album: 6x platinum
Nelly's biggest selling album: 9x platinum
50 Cent's biggest selling album: 12x platinum
Eminem's biggest selling album: 30x platinum


Jay-Z's biggest selling album: 5x platinum


He's clearly behind the other dudes :snoop:

So how was he the "Drake" of his era?He wasn't the hottest rapper. Just consistent. Career longevity. Outlasting everybody else and putting out hot music for a long period of time but, the other artists at their peak were more popular than Jay-Z ever was. If anybody was "Drake" back then, it was Nelly or Ja Rule.
 
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