Is Ginobili top 10 SG of all time?

[Originalman]

Hell no.....when Clyde and Richmond played those dudes were consider the best guards in the NBA after Jordan. And gave Even Jordan that work at times. Folks on here young and never saw these guys play in their primes. Jokers remember Clyde when he was old with then rockets or Mitch when he was old and on the bench.

Also realize Manu was never the first option on his teams.....but those dudes were.

 

[Originalman]

Lol you put a prime ray allen reggie and mitch kn those spurs teams and theyre 3 peating easily. What a joke to compare manu to them

Exactly folks don't know what they are talking about.

 

[Originalman]

I guess Eric Snow wasn't playing point On the sixers...lol. It was all a dream...lol

 

[Originalman]

Not trolling, there's nothing on a basketball court they could do that Manu couldn't. A prime Manu gives every SG named in this thread the business. Half of them dudes ain't got half of Manu's passing and playmaking skills, dude one of the best all-around SG's ever

Danny Manning was more skilled then Bernard King.......does that mean Danny Manning was a better player than king? No it doesn't.

 

[Originalman]

The Spurs were old, 4 years passed since their first title and constantly getting bytched out by LA in the playoffs before Manu came. The Spurs weren't this top flight, elite beloved organization when he got to SA. You can't say he wouldn't have the half the team success without the Spurs cause the Spurs don't get 4 more titles without him, his rookie year they won the chip. Only thing fortuitous about Manu's career is that he fell to 57 in the draft. He was an elite player that willingly decided to play the background and he benefited from it. He could've easily went somewhere else, averaged 25 ppg and not won shyt like these other nikkas named in the thread.

Don't forget the reason the spurs won that first title when he got there was because Steven Jackson was their Kobe stopper. After their first ring Kobe and Shaq's became a dominant force. The spurs were constantly looking for a Kobe stopper. The year they had one in Derrick Anderson they had one of the best records in the league and may have gotten back to the finals. But Derrick Anderson shattered his wrist in the playoffs.

They get Steven Jackson the next year and go to the finals to face the nets. This is the year that Manu came off the bench as a rookie.

 

[Originalman]

Also folks forget that Manu has 4 rings playing with two of the greatest big men of the last 30 years.......Tim duncan and David Robinson (Manu got his first ring when David was on the team).

 

[Jplaya2023]

Also folks forget that Manu has 4 rings playing with two of the greatest big men of the last 30 years.......Tim duncan and David Robinson (Manu got his first ring when David was on the team).

D Rob was flabby n sick in 03 when manu was a rookie off the bench he just had duncan

 

[Ohene]

oscar robertson is a 1
tmac and vince are both 3's
I give you ai MAYBE is a 2.

i'll MAYBE give you mitch richmond.




could you name another 5 though? REALLY.

To be honest I can't argue with Gino being top 10 sg in the post Magic era.

Possibly top 10 all time.. but definitely top 20.

VC is not a 3

 

[dreskii]

@ this bein a debate

Off top from 90s - present

- Jordan
- Kobe
- Wade
- AI (usually had the ball in his hands like all great Guards but played SG most of his career and when he ran the point nikkas often refused to call him a PG cause his style of play wasn't traditional so don't try to flip it now to fit your narrative)
- Hill (played both SG and SF nikkas forget he was the OG "next Jordan" before the injuries and dude wasn't even mentioned on none of the impromptu lists in this thread which further shows how silly this question is cause the position is deep as hell)
- Carter (played both SG and SF)
- McGrady (played both SG and SF)
- Richmond
- Drexler
- Miller

And thats not even includin pre 90s, Manu been comin off the bench for half his career like someone else said he might be a top 10 all time 6th man cause like Harden he better in that role than tryna build a team around him. And freeze all that 4 rings shyt as if he was the main reason they won ignorin the fact he never was finals MVP even Leonard got one of those so Manu was 3rd-4th most important player on that team durin their entire run.

Gotta love how nikkas wanna bring up international play as if playin in Argentina and occasionally goin up against the only 2 foreign teams that can even hang wit the US is comparable to playin in the NBA, by that logic lets throw in stats for all the muhfukkas that played in China cause some of the numbers they rack up over there would put them ahead of Ginobili on the all time SG list too and if you countin entire basketball careers then College and High School gotta be included makin the gap between all the players mentioned in this thread and Manu even wider.

lol at you not thinking this is debatable when 4 of your top 10 are debatable as SG's.

 

[blackzeus]

mj, kobe, wade, clyde drexler, oscar robertson, ray allen, george gervin, pistol pete, mitch richmond, allen iverson, reggie miller, tmac, vince carter

ginobili might not crack top 20.

Grand opening, grand closing

 

[beenz]

I have the following over him:

1. west
2. jordan
3. kobe
4. wade
5. allen
6. drexeler
   
7. iverson
8. dumars
9. gervin
10. t-pain
11. miller
    
12. joe johnson
13. carter

 

[William F. Russell]

Jordan, Kobe, Big O, D-Wade, Clyde, and AI are the only SGs that I firmly believe are better than Ginobili.

In the first half of his career, Ray Allen>Ginobili. But since he's joined the Celtics (2007), he's undoubtedly regressed to being solely a 3-point shooter.

Reggie Miller being better than Ginobili is debatable at best. Reggie was a very one-dimensional player and is probably the most overrated HOFer ever. Of course, he had some big-time performances and was the No. 1 on the Pacers. But it's not etched in stone that he's a better player than Ginobili. There's a debate.

T-Mac (when healthy) shytted on Ginobili. But obviously, T-Mac couldn't stay healthy (most notably after he joined the Rockets) and his career is now looked upon as "what could have been". There's a debate as to who's had a better career as a SG.

Vince Carter was probably one of the most talented players EVER to play --if we're just talking about pure athleticism and skill--but the fact that he was inefficient as a volume shooter/scorer, injury prone, and lazy/indifferent approach to the game knocks him below Ginobili for me. Debatable.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

In the first half of his career, Ray Allen>Ginobili. But since he's joined the Celtics (2007), he's undoubtedly regressed to being solely a 3-point shooter.

Allen wasn't solely a 3-pt shooter until basically his last season in Boston. By then he already played four seasons at a high level for the Celtics, and 12 seasons prior being the #1 a/b option. Don't try and vaguely belittle his game to being just a shooter before he actually was.

 

[GreatestLaker]

The first year Manu was a starter we won the title and he shoulda won finals MVP. That same Detroit team who frustrated Kobe the previous caught work from Manu in the finals....he was the first option the majority of that series

Pistons were much better defensively in 04. Don't forget the NBA changed the hand checking rules after the 04 finals. They weren't allowed to play the same type of defense in 05.

 

[Tommy Sheppard]

somebody said ginobili was better then drexler