Is Hit Boy Nas' Quincy Jones?

[FunkDoc1112]

That dont mean his shyt is trash

Ive seen this be the new take with Hit from some people. Because he has a range of production styles somehow it makes him less authentic than the dudes with a certain signature sound that got classics under the belt. I wouldnt put him in any GOAT tier but in this current era hes one of them dudes who knows how to craft an album for people and the right production is still a good thing.

I think the criticism isn't inauthenticity from doing different styles, but rather that he's a "jack of all trades, master of none."

 

[DontEemTry]

I think the criticism isn't inauthenticity from doing different styles, but rather that he's a "jack of all trades, master of none."

That's that the thing, Hit doesn't even have a signature sound. I guess it could be seen as a strength

 

[prophecypro]

I think the criticism isn't inauthenticity from doing different styles, but rather that he's a "jack of all trades, master of none."

But I dont think its a bad thing especially when most of these people fantasy draft who should produce a Nas album and hes gives the kinda beats they wanna hear from these people anyway

 

[FunkDoc1112]

But I dont think its a bad thing especially when most of these people fantasy draft who should produce a Nas album and hes gives the kinda beats they wanna hear from these people anyway

But that's where the "Master of none" comes into the equation. He can do a variety of styles, but not up to the capability of the folks who specialize in those styles.

 

[prophecypro]

But that's where the "Master of none" comes into the equation. He can do a variety of styles, but not up to the capability of the folks who specialize in those styles.

The guys who people want Nas to work with , with the exception of maybe Alchemist also arent producing to the level of their past capability either, at least not consitently.

 

[L. Deezy]

But that's where the "Master of none" comes into the equation. He can do a variety of styles, but not up to the capability of the folks who specialize in those styles.

this is ridiculous.. Most producers aint shyt but a sample and a drum pad.

its only when you get producers that can play instruments does this become a real topic. So who the fuhk you gonna compare Hit Boy too? Pharrell?? Salaam Remi? and lt should be said that Salaam is uber talented, but lets be real no one is interested in Salaam outside of Nas.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

this is ridiculous.. Most producers aint shyt but a sample and a drum pad.

its only when you get producers that can play instruments does this become a real topic. So who the fuhk you gonna compare Hit Boy too? Pharrell?? Salaam Remi? and lt should be said that Salaam is uber talented, but lets be real no one is interested in Salaam outside of Nas.

Tell me you don't know anything about producing without telling me you don't know anything about producing brehs

You oversimplified the fukk out of the discussion. It's a lot more than "sample and drum pads". What you do with it all and how you put it all together is what separates the Premos and Just Blazes from the imitators

 

[Cuban Pete]

Its definitely not Alc but Nas and Alc have never missed imo Tik Toc still a classic

Id rather a Kings Disease 4/Magic 2 and a Nas/Alc project than a dusty ass Premier album at this point tbh

 

[Insensitive]

No.
Hitboy is to Nas what Premo or Dr. Dre or Timbaland etc. are to certain rappers.

He is not Quincy Jones.
Some of y'all really have no clue the breadth of knowledge that Quincy Jones possesses.
At one time, I didn't know either but now I've tried my hand at learning about arranging
for Jazz, specifically for a small band (4 to 5 pieces) that shyt is HARD and it directly
translates to genres like Funk, Soul, Jazz Rock etc.
This dude Quincy was doing it for BIG BAND with several different instruments that all needed
to work in conjunction and directly took that knowledge and applied it to other genres.

That shyt is NO JOKE.

 

[L. Deezy]

Tell me you don't know anything about producing without telling me you don't know anything about producing brehs

You oversimplified the fukk out of the discussion. It's a lot more than "sample and drum pads". What you do with it all and how you put it all together is what separates the Premos and Just Blazes from the imitators

Im asking you whoooo you comparing him to? Give me names... lets debunk this shyt

 

[JustCKing]

No.
Hitboy is to Nas what Premo or Dr. Dre or Timbaland etc. are to certain rappers.

He is not Quincy Jones.
Some of y'all really have no clue the breadth of knowledge that Quincy Jones possesses.
At one time, I didn't know either but now I've tried my hand at learning about arranging
for Jazz, specifically for a small band (4 to 5 pieces) that shyt is HARD and it directly
translates to genres like Funk, Soul, Jazz Rock etc.
This dude Quincy was doing it for BIG BAND with several different instruments that all needed
to work in conjunction and directly took that knowledge and applied it to other genres.

That shyt is NO JOKE.

Yeah, but comparing to Dre/Snoop or Timbaland/Missy is the same as comparing Hit/Nas to Quincy/MJ. Why? One could argue that Hit/Nas don't have work comparable to Doggystyle or that the music wasn't as ground breaking as what Timbaland/Missy did musically. That's not why the comparison exists. The Hit/Nas comparison to Quincy/MJ is basically saying that Hit/Nas are becoming one of the classic producer/artist tandems. Has nothing to do with saying they are as great as Quincy/MJ.

 

[DontEemTry]

No.
Hitboy is to Nas what Premo or Dr. Dre or Timbaland etc. are to certain rappers.

He is not Quincy Jones.
Some of y'all really have no clue the breadth of knowledge that Quincy Jones possesses.
At one time, I didn't know either but now I've tried my hand at learning about arranging
for Jazz, specifically for a small band (4 to 5 pieces) that shyt is HARD and it directly
translates to genres like Funk, Soul, Jazz Rock etc.
This dude Quincy was doing it for BIG BAND with several different instruments that all needed
to work in conjunction and directly took that knowledge and applied it to other genres.

That shyt is NO JOKE.

Word. There's really no comparison in hiphop, except maybe Rick Rubin but understandably nikkas would have a problem with that comparison

 

[Insensitive]

Yeah, but comparing to Dre/Snoop or Timbaland/Missy is the same as comparing Hit/Nas to Quincy/MJ. Why? One could argue that Hit/Nas don't have work comparable to Doggystyle or that the music wasn't as ground breaking as what Timbaland/Missy did musically. That's not why the comparison exists. The Hit/Nas comparison to Quincy/MJ is basically saying that Hit/Nas are becoming one of the classic producer/artist tandems. Has nothing to do with saying they are as great as Quincy/MJ.

OOOO I misinterpreted the thread title

In that case, yes, I think Hitboy and Nas have a Quincy Jones/Michael Jackson like chemistry.

 

[Ziggiy]

this is ridiculous.. Most producers aint shyt but a sample and a drum pad.

its only when you get producers that can play instruments does this become a real topic. So who the fuhk you gonna compare Hit Boy too? Pharrell?? Salaam Remi? and lt should be said that Salaam is uber talented, but lets be real no one is interested in Salaam outside of Nas.

Salaam Remi has a GAZILLION production credits outside of his work with Nas. He just won a Grammy THIS year for his work with Andra Day.

Clearly there are plenty of artists interested in his services

 

[L. Deezy]

Salaam Remi has a GAZILLION production credits outside of his work with Nas. He just won a Grammy THIS year for his work with Andra Day.

Clearly there are plenty of artists interested in his services

True...

I like him more outside hip hop.

The Mack Wilds album is a low key fave of mine