Is HOA one the biggest scams in America

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Good thing you have new owners in your hood. There are cons to HOAs. But, one pro, at least in my hood, is that they have restrictions on renters and Air BNBs. Obviously, everyone has to upkeep their homes which help increase property values.
One con is that HOAs can go up on fees and you can't write off your fees.

At the end of the day, you take the good with the bad. HOA or not, at least you own some shyt. Lol


This is worth its weight in gold..

Renters almost malways fck up a community..
 

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It's crazy cause you have no control over the rate they increase. At least with property tax politicians know they might get :camby:if they increase too much and you can appeal increases in my city.
I was looking at copping apartments in buildings to be a landlord or maybe do the airbnb hustle and i was seeing mad studio/1br apartments going for $70k-100K but the HOA fees would be the same as the mortgage :dead:.
 

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The HOA at my condo is defininately worth it but at my house it's a fukking rip off. I mean they keep the pool and the park in my community up but those b1tches once fined me $500 because I put down black mulch instead of red mulch and when I didn't pay that sh1t, they cut my damn cable off... I was livid!

YIKES!
 

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PMI imo is the biggest scam.

Paying a bank extra money just in case u cant pay?

Then if you pay your mortgage early to get under the 20% LTV baseline and request PMI be removed they can make you pay for an assessment :dead:
My house appreciated 100k since i bought it so they didn't request an assessment when i got my pmi removed but it was in the contract language
 

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You see where i said i have a house with no neighbors on 5 acres? Yeah...i sont like neighbors, so other people dont have any effect on my property value. I dont have those problems


If I skipped it, then you clarified it in your last post. I am not suggesting that you nor anyone else here should buy an HOA managed home, but simply made a point where some people place value on being HOA managed vs. those who are not HOA managed.
 

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my hoa is 270 a year in west orlando my house is in the back of the neighborhood so they they can really see it from the road but they complain if the grass by the street is not cut in a timely matter...wife hates it she bought some land in georgetown florida......it has a hoa as well. in bama where i grew up hoa is rare,,,
 

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PMI imo is the biggest scam.

Paying a bank extra money just in case u cant pay?

You only need to pay PMI if you can't put up the 20% down payment or if you have a VA loan. From the lenders perspective, it's good business. The more money someone puts down, the less likely they will default and walk away, because they have a lot of money invested.

Imagine if banks gave out $300,000 loans, no money down. People would walk away after a few years because it would be just like renting.
 

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If I skipped it, then you clarified it in your last post. I am not suggesting that you nor anyone else here should buy an HOA managed home, but simply made a point where some people place value on being HOA managed vs. those who are not HOA managed.
I guess HOAd left a sour taste in my mouth. I bought my first house not thinking much about the HOA attached to it. I was active duty military at the time and it wasnt so bad at first. I paid my $300 for the year and that was it. Then i had to tdy for 3 weeks. My grass got a little long but not stupid high. I came back to 2 letters in my mail box. The first one was a warning, and the second one was a fine. After that i parked my jeep in my yard for a few nights....another letter, then i got a letter about a little mold (the green shyt that get on the side of your house) when i already had my homeboy scheduled to comeout to pressure wash it. My final straw was when i got a letter about having a party and being too loud when i aint even have anyone over. They stated that i was getting too many violations and they could put a lien on the house or some shyt. Thats when i stopped paying them. I said fukk all that and sold the house to my coworker. They tried to take me to court and i told em i sold the house and go eat a dikk.

That shyt aint freedom. Its kinda like buying getting a loan for a car vs leasing a car. When you get a loan or buy a car outright, you can do what the fukk you want to it mostly as long as its street legal and safe. Leasing you have all these rules n shyt and no freedom.
 

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That's great.

You're looking at $700-1000/Mo. in South Florida for all this shyt depending on where you wanna live. Ain't no way you should be paying a rack a month in HOA fees on a $200-250k mortgage. That's fukking wild.

Can you find reasonable spots? Sure, but reasonable is still $350-550 in HOA fees every month. If you're lucky you get security, water and basic cable/internet with that.

This shyt a racket.

Good point. Like you said, it all depends on where you live and what you get.

My brother pays well over $500 a month in HOA dues for his home in South Florida. However, that fee includes yard maintainance for his home, gated security access to the community and 24/7 security (guards at gate and guards that drive through community). So I understand why it is more expensive in comparison to mine.
 

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It's crazy cause you have no control over the rate they increase. At least with property tax politicians know they might get :camby:if they increase too much and you can appeal increases in my city.
I was looking at copping apartments in buildings to be a landlord or maybe do the airbnb hustle and i was seeing mad studio/1br apartments going for $70k-100K but the HOA fees would be the same as the mortgage :dead:.

This may depend on what city/state you live in. A lot of HOA’s in and around Atlanta are run by the homeowners. The amount paid in dues is voted on and established by the owners. We tell the management company (who actually collects the money and pays the bills) what the dues are and when they should be collected.
 

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The more expensive areas here pay about 1000 a year, and i myself pay 550/year
300 a month? Where they do that at :hhh:
 

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HOAs are a pain in the ass until you don't have one and you have a shytty neighbor leaving a broken washer and dryer in the front lawn, old ass car that doesn't work, grass is brown and unmanicured....there's pros and cons.

A HOA would have got this muhfukka out the paint the second the first ladder was out there.

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