Is intelligent design the biggest argument for the existence of a higher being?

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Not true because the flesh is weak..

You feared your parents but didn't listen to them all the time have you?

see you’ve messed up and closed yourself in now:ufdup:


We fear our parents as children because in our simple child minds, they are omnipotent beings that can’t do any wrong and hold the keys to control the world around us .

As our minds develops we come to understand our parents are flawed humans just like everybody else as we put away childish beliefs and obtain knowledge :ufdup:

We love our parents and still look to them for advice, but we know that image of them being a all powerful being wasn’t real.

this is how i look at religious folks:ld: there’s nothing wrong with believing in a god, but only as a belief to empower and inspire you to do good and be better ,not to control other people life’s around you and nothing to cause you any fear:obama:
 

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I put money that the evilest people in history were theist. I would also wager that the prison population across America are 98% theist
I agree when you have a built in failsafe that you can always ask for forgiveness later or the devil made you do it, you’re capable of truly dark things :merchant:
 

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Why is this site so anti-science?
i am a chemical engineer :mjgrin: Science isnt about measuring the past. Its about measuring present states to make inferences of future states.

Any science that measures today, in order to ascertain the past is quack science.
 

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You have to be a retard to believe that this universe and solar system came from a big explosion right?

How could such organisation come from chaos. A perfectly placed ball of energy with a magnetic field with planets rotating at the right positions at the right time. I mean cmon.

Give me an example in daily life where an accident causes the creation of order.
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If there was an 'intelligent designer' we wouldn't breathe and eat through the same orifice, thus putting us at risk for choking.
If there was an 'intelligent designer' children wouldn't get horrific illnesses and die.
If there was an 'intelligent designer'...

there's countless arguments against an 'intelligent designer' :mjlol:
 

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I agree when you have a built in failsafe that you can always ask for forgiveness later or the devil made you do it, you’re capable of truly dark things :merchant:
are you sure you can say "the devil made you do it"

if you say the devil made you do it, the devil is your God. But if there is no God or Devil for you, then surely you made yourself do truly dark things. :dame:
 

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I guess you'll see when the lights go out.
Even science says energy just transfers from one phase to the next and you're existence is nothing but atoms with a conscious. There's something else for you after this brother.

Start behaving and saying sorry and submitting to worship. We want to see you at the gates.
yo if Jesus knew brazillian jiu jitsu those romans woulda never been able to crucify him

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THE ALMIGHTLY DOESNT NEED ANYTHIN

NOT EVEN A PARTNER

THAT WOULD DEFEAT THE PURPOSE OF ABSOLUTE PERFECTION, WHICH IS WHAT THE ALMIGHTY IS
God desired creation, and made it and established it. His creation is his partner.

The only thing less than God is Gods creation, which is the sum of what we know God has created, which is still being established today :jbhmm: by God. Which means the Lord does not rest

 

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Agree. Look at the delicate balance of life and ecosystems on earth. Animals that fit one type of ecosystem only, and said ecosystem also is dependant on the animal. A perfectly balanced system. You have to be a retard to think that happens by random chance.

The idea of "invasive species" also strengthens intelligent design and kicks evolution in the balls. If adaptation is king, why do invasive species run wild? Why don't the predator species just "adapt" to the presence of new prey and hunt them like they do their natural prey? Its almost like they were designed for specific roles on earth and human intervention itself is what disrupts them....

I also want to see proof of this mythical fish that just decided to convert it's gills to lungs and sprout legs. :unimpressed:
You're an idiot, it took millions of years of animals living in those specific environments to evolve. That's the 'basic' theory of evolution. See: finches in the galapagos. Each island was a slightly different terrain/feeding zone. So over time, the finch evolved differently in order to better adapt to its environment, so some had beaks better at cracking seeds, while some ate flowers/berries or whatever.

That's why you're a fukking idiot for thinking animals can just choose to 'adapt' to invasive species. And even if predators did magically evolve instantly to hunt new prey, those new prey are fukking up the ecosystem down the line. Like starlings aren't a predator species, but they're invasive because they kill all the other birds brehs, so farmers go out of their way to kill starlings to preserve the natural ecosystem.

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i am a chemical engineer :mjgrin: Science isnt about measuring the past. Its about measuring present states to make inferences of future states.

Any science that measures today, in order to ascertain the past is quack science.
Earth science - Wikipedia

So all of that is quack science?
Please post why it is. Sources would be nice

Post source to prove why the bible is correct.
 

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Earth science - Wikipedia

So all of that is quack science?
Please post why it is. Sources would be nice

Post source to prove why the bible is correct.
Basically the dating they use in geology is based on random activity in nuclei that are assumed to have a fixed start date

that has never been proven IE when does a uranium atom become a uranium atom. They cannot and never answer something like that because mass and energy can be converted. This means if an atom undergoes fission or fusion it cant be assumed that has only happened once.

So if I have a hydrogen atom, I can really assume its always just been a hydogen atom. If fusion and fission happen it means that same atom could have been many things. Thus if you had radioactive carbon in a rock and said clearly this rock is 400million years old due to halflife analysis. It would assume it was fused/fissioned once.

Its a logical fallacy. Either matter can be created and destroyed OR matter cannot be created or destroyed. So that concept of dating matter is a shaky and ultimately broken idea. That doesnt stop scientists from sticking with it. Basically if they all agree to believe in deep time they can keep their jobs.

A great deal of it is nonsensical if you consider the underlying measurement system used (also applies to astronomy with measuring light at great distances)
 

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it took billions of years for the world to evolve to what it currently is.
Modern humans haven't even been around for a million years, if I'm not mistaking
Well, depends how you wanna define modern humans.
Australopithecus separated from chimpanzees ~3 million years ago.
Anthropologists previously thought 'modern' homo sapiens evolved in east africa ~100k years ago, but recent evidence in Western Africa indicates it was a continent wide process around ~300k years ago :whew:

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/broken-hill-skull-fossil-may-be-from-african-ghost-population

“We can now identify at least three distinct and contemporary [Homo] lineages in Africa about 300,000 years ago, but we don’t yet know whether our ancestry was largely or entirely contained within the H. sapiens part of that variation,” says paleoanthropologist and study coauthor Chris Stringer of the Natural History Museum in London.
 

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The big bang theory is just that, a theory. Cacs think they can explain everything. Even though they have nothing to substantiate it when they came up with it. Just like Charles Darwin and his bogus theory of evolution. We didn't come from no damn apes.

Hell, when you look at the theory of evolution chart with the ape gradually forming into a Caucasian white man who do you think the ape is actually supposed to be representing?

Something to think about.
 
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