Is intelligent design the biggest argument for the existence of a higher being?

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yo if Jesus knew brazillian jiu jitsu those romans woulda never been able to crucify him

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He let them rock to show how ignorant they were.
 

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You describe fear of consequences but then denounce it. Realizing that you hurt people or made the wrong decision is learning from your mistakes but only if it wasn't done purposely.

We believe the same thing but for different reasons. Let me ask you this. If we both behave in the same righteous ways but I don't believe in a god and you do, should we be treated differently? If it turns out there is a god will I go to hell bc I didn't believe in him?
That's not for me to decide. What I wouldn't do is bank on being an exception when just a little more effort would get me in the door.

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Let's just make this a bit simpler:
How about all the theist post proof why the bible is correct. Give your sources
when you say, "why the bible is correct" what exactly are you testing for? proof of God? or Proof of A God?
 

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a lot of folks on here are getting Science wrong. Science is a process, it's just doesn't end. We learning new things each day. Folks learned that the sun was the center of the social system 1ms ago in relations to human history. Imagine what we'll know in 10 years.
 

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OP I actually agree with you. There is higher beings out there and other planes of existence, but the world has been deluded into thinking there is not sadly.

There is no way I can believe that life is just is. That everything was perfectly put in place over years in order for our survival. That the Sun is there and the Moon is there, water, air, clouds, trees, etc.

It's even crazier to think if we have everything set up to live, why disregard the idea of life elsewhere in our universe . There could be other spieces out there too. :jbhmm:

I'm a science nerd myself but science can't explain everything.
 

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OP I actually agree with you. There is higher beings out there and other planes of existence, but the world has been deluded into thinking there is not sadly.

There is no way I can believe that life is just is. That everything was perfectly put in place over years in order for our survival. That the Sun is there and the Moon is there, water, air, clouds, trees, etc.

It's even crazier to think if we have everything set up to live, why disregard the idea of life elsewhere in our universe . There could be other spieces out there too. :jbhmm:

I'm a science nerd myself but science can't explain everything.
if time doesn't exist...then this reality becomes a multiform, constantly churning and self-replicating infinite life form.

if you say that things werent put in place, maybe you are right. But if you say they are put in place, maybe you are right

in either case, what difference does it make of knowing or not knowing? Peace of mind?

science seems to suggest our current reality on earth is highly ideal relative what has been discovered/measured elsewhere and much easier to maintain
 

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Science doesn't claim to be a storehouse of facts or 'the truth', per se, it's just a method that produces hypotheses, evidence, conclusion, etc.

I'm just saying, if @Sccit agrees with you, you're probably wrong. :hubie:


YOURE A GODLESS FAGOT.. WHAT A HUGE SURPRISE
 

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NAAH THATS JUST A BRANCH OFF OF JUDAISM BRUH
from my perspective judaism is a branch of the tongue of Ham which is Canaan

Genesis 9:21-27

21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.

22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.

24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.

25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

i interpret this as

Ham understood the progenitor language (Egypt and Kush) and his son Canaan brought it out of Egypt (Hebrew/Phoenician)

whereas the other nations did not do such a thing as Canaan. The language of Shem is Arabic numerals (numbers) and Japheth dwells in the tents of Shem and Canaan is the servant of numbers
 

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It's not even the same alphabet. The original Hebrews in the Levant were writing in a Phoenician script, the block Hebrew that's read today wasn't even invented until the 1-2nd century AD and developed out of a square-script which developed around the 3rd century BCE. Much later than the original Masoretic texts were written.

Not to mention discrepancies in the text itself. Goliath today is said to be 6 cubits/9 feet tall, when originally he was 4 cubits and around 6'9.

But of course the guy who writes in all caps is gonna give me an undisturbed hermeneutic interpretation.

Maimonides' 13 Principles of Jewish Faith


READ PRINCIPLE 8 GAYBOY
 

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from my perspective judaism is a branch of the tongue of Ham which is Canaan

Genesis 9:21-27



i interpret this as

Ham understood the progenitor language (Egypt and Kush) and in turn from Judah being brought out of Egypt (Hebrew/Phoenician)

whereas the other nations did not do such a thing as Canaan. The language of Shem is Arabic numerals (numbers) and Japheth dwells in the tents of Shem and Canaan is the servant of numbers


NO THE OLD TESTAMENT IS THE UNALTERED WORD OF GOD, GIVEN TO US ON MOUNT SINAI .. IF U TRULY ARE A CATHOLIC THEN U SHOULD KNOW THIS.
 
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