Is intelligent design the biggest argument for the existence of a higher being?

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You describe fear of consequences but then denounce it. Realizing that you hurt people or made the wrong decision is learning from your mistakes but only if it wasn't done purposely.

We believe the same thing but for different reasons. Let me ask you this. If we both behave in the same righteous ways but I don't believe in a god and you do, should we be treated differently? If it turns out there is a god will I go to hell bc I didn't believe in him?

Thats what I don’t understand about religion, or at least Christianity. So you mean to tell me, I can live a righteous life because it’s in my heart to do so, but not subscribe to particular religion and because I didn’t proclaim my love for a particular God, I’m doomed to hell fire :martin:

I’m sorry, but if it is a heavens gate and a god judging, I feel like breh won’t be tripping on you not bowing down to him on earth. And if he would, then I simply don’t like him:manny: Sound like some fukk shyt to me.


I know the analogy is not the same, cause everyone has their own theories on how an afterlife works or if it even is one. But imagine a parent sends their kids to school and want them to get good grades and behave well. And the kid is never in trouble and gets straight A’s. But the parent finds out that the kid behaved well and got good grades because they were just a good person and it’s in their heart to do good. But the parent gets mad and punishes them because they didn’t behave well and get good grades out of fear for them :dead:
 

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IF U REALIZE YOU ARE CONSTANTLY SINNING DUE TO HUMAN IMPERFECTION, WHY WOULD U NOT FEAR GOD? A LACK OF FEAR WOULD ONLY RESULT IN MORE WRONGDOING, BECAUSE YOU DONT WORRY ABOUT A CONSEQUENCE.
Vast majority of people that are believers sin every without worry if they are just compiling a list for them to go to hell. They'll try to justify it like "God knows what's in my heart" or something silly like that. nikkas don't even be thinking about god but when the subject of religion comes up nikkas want to get like they are the most righteous and try to tell someone else that they need Jesus
 

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Thats what I don’t understand about religion, or at least Christianity. So you mean to tell me, I can live a righteous life because it’s in my heart to do so, but not subscribe to particular religion and because I didn’t proclaim my love for a particular God, I’m doomed to hell fire :martin:

I’m sorry, but if it is a heavens gate and a god judging, I feel like breh won’t be tripping on you not bowing down to him on earth. And if he would, then I simply don’t like him:manny: Sound like some fukk shyt to me.


I know the analogy is not the same, cause everyone has their own theories on how an afterlife works or if it even is one. But imagine a parent sends their kids to school and want them to get good grades and behave well. And the kid is never in trouble and gets straight A’s. But the parent finds out that the kid behaved well and got good grades because they were just a good person and it’s in their heart to do good. But the parent gets mad and punishes them because they didn’t behave well and get good grades out of fear for them :dead:

Netflix has a good movie about this based on a real life preacher



Edit:

Him: Carlton Pearson - Wikipedia

What he started preaching: History of Christian universalism - Wikipedia
 

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Vast majority of people that are believers sin every without worry if they are just compiling a list for them to go to hell. They'll try to justify it like "God knows what's in my heart" or something silly like that. nikkas don't even be thinking about god but when the subject of religion comes up nikkas want to get like they are the most righteous and try to tell someone else that they need Jesus
we are taught:

James 4:11

Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.
 

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So I see I’m dealing with a idiot. I said free Palestine, you brought up they’re black people who practice Judaism:stopitslime: I didn’t say free Islam. I said free Palestine, the people jews don’t think have a right to their homes :unimpressed:


ISRAELI GOVERNMENT IS TOO KIND TO THE PALESTINIANS
 

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These are my opinions.

Nature is our Creator. We don't know who God is but yet everyday the Sun (father/masculine) and the Moon (mother/feminine) comes out. The sun and the moon have been ingratiated into most spiritual and religious practices that most people don't even comprehend because they're doing things out of habit.

Nature is self sustaining. Issues come in when Man wants to manipulate nature rather than accept nature as it is. Nature is neither good nor bad. It's simply nature.

It's confusing that people equate our Creator as being singular without a partner(s) when everything in nature has a male and female counterpart.

There's a reason why we live on earth (inhabitable land).

THE ALMIGHTLY DOESNT NEED ANYTHIN

NOT EVEN A PARTNER

THAT WOULD DEFEAT THE PURPOSE OF ABSOLUTE PERFECTION, WHICH IS WHAT THE ALMIGHTY IS
 
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Vast majority of people that are believers sin every without worry if they are just compiling a list for them to go to hell. They'll try to justify it like "God knows what's in my heart" or something silly like that. nikkas don't even be thinking about god but when the subject of religion comes up nikkas want to get like they are the most righteous and try to tell someone else that they need Jesus


THEN THEY LIVIN WRONG
 
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People who claim to be religious always claim this bullshyt. Y’all don’t fear god because if you did you would live peacefully and 100% by your written Holy books:stopitslime:

y’all want to control other humans and have them fear y’all because in a sick way you guys think you speak for god or are gods:hhh:
Not true because the flesh is weak..

You feared your parents but didn't listen to them all the time have you?
 

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If the designer does not need a designer to create it, why should other things?
This is a huge logical inconsistency and the fact that creatonists don't even attempt to address highlights their dubious reasoning
Intelligent design reminds me people really aren't that smart. It's basically well people make some stuff so something like people but greater but better must have made everything else. How does an actual adult being believe this is some form of proper logic?
Anyone with a grasp of logic, understands the contradictions an omnipotent and omniscient being creates
The simplest one being can God create an object that is too massive/heavy for him to move
 

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Never really thought if it that way, but sure that could be a possibility.

I was thinking more of the Big Bang simply being a mechanism that god created to generate the universe. Sort of like God pressing the start button.
This could also be true. That's why I hate when people try to say some one is wrong about the origin of the universe. It could be something we never knew existed
 

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So you mean to tell me, I can live a righteous life because it’s in my heart to do so, but not subscribe to particular religion and because I didn’t proclaim my love for a particular God, I’m doomed to hell fire
I agree with you and Marcus Aurelius on this:
“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”

― Marcus Aurelius
 

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People who claim to be religious always claim this bullshyt. Y’all don’t fear god because if you did you would live peacefully and 100% by your written Holy books:stopitslime:

y’all want to control other humans and have them fear y’all because in a sick way you guys think you speak for god or are gods:hhh:
I put money that the evilest people in history were theist. I would also wager that the prison population across America are 98% theist
 
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