Is Isiah Thomas the greatest to turn a bad franchise into a champion?

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Yes, I know Cleveland Cavs never won one before the King. But they had good playoff teams before. Yes, Jordan. But Chicago Bulls had playoff teams in the 70's.

The Pistons had one 50 win in the 70's. Always bad.. Yes, I'm a biased Pistons fan and I believe hes top 5 because of his height (I know many who met him who say he's actually 6'0 not 6'1). I'm just talking strictly historically bad franchise into champions.
 

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Yes, I know Cleveland Cavs never won one before the King. But they had good playoff teams before. Yes, Jordan. But Chicago Bulls had playoff teams in the 70's.

The Pistons had one 50 win in the 70's. Always bad.. Yes, I'm a biased Pistons fan and I believe hes top 5 because of his height (I know many who met him who say he's actually 6'0 not 6'1). I'm just talking strictly historically bad franchise into champions.
He very well may be. He was the leader and it was a team collective in the end to finally accomplish it, but he was definitely the engine.

Steph can be credited for the same thing, essentially. He was the engine of the transformation of a franchise that was historically bad outside of a couple of seasons in 06-08. Yeah, it was a franchise turnaround and coaching/personnel changes helped (Klay, Mark Jack, Kerr, Draymond) but Steph was the main reason for the change.
 

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I guess if we’re talking outright horrible teams. Bulls still wasn’t shyt fr before Jordan
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Peep them in the 70s. They made the western conference finals more then once. They were not worse then the Pistons. What Zeke did was way more accomplished with a historically bad franchise
 

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I wish Griffey and those Mariners teams made a run
Toronto has made the playoffs before Kawhi. Heck, he was doing load management the year they won. Cant compare thst to what Zeke did for the Pistons. Especially one year and bouncing
 

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Yes, I know Cleveland Cavs never won one before the King. But they had good playoff teams before. Yes, Jordan. But Chicago Bulls had playoff teams in the 70's.

The Pistons had one 50 win in the 70's. Always bad.. Yes, I'm a biased Pistons fan and I believe hes top 5 because of his height (I know many who met him who say he's actually 6'0 not 6'1). I'm just talking strictly historically bad franchise into champions.

He very well may be. He was the leader and it was a team collective in the end to finally accomplish it, but he was definitely the engine.

Steph can be credited for the same thing, essentially. He was the engine of the transformation of a franchise that was historically bad outside of a couple of seasons in 06-08. Yeah, it was a franchise turnaround and coaching/personnel changes helped (Klay, Mark Jack, Kerr, Draymond) but Steph was the main reason for the change.

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