Is Islam truly innocent of ISIS?

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@Napoleon I don't mind debating you my dude but you gotta quote me in one succinct post. I don't know which of your posts to address :manny:

As far as those verses being out of context, the Quran came to be in different stages and different verses gave different direct commandments at the time. When Muhammed (pbuh) went to fight the Byzantines in the north and their allies the Christian Arabs, they killed the emissary of the Muslims and amassed an army to kill them. So that verse doesn't mean go from a time of peace to just fight any old Christians, it was something that had happened in Islam, a commandment from God that was abrogated.

Aggressive war is against the religion of Islam so if Christians attack Muslims, they will follow the example of their Prophet and fight them until they pay the Jizya. I don't see what's so outrageous :manny:

You addressed one line in a paper that listed several.

And why is a religion condoning violent action yet acting surprised when violent action is suggested in the future?
 

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Aggressive war is against the religion of Islam
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquests

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Live in a country that funds Israel and Saudi Arabia but cry about Radical Islam :pachaha:
i mean of course this is arguable, but why does it excuse radical islam? why does the fact that our corrupt politicians grease israel=the quran being real and "allah" rewarding these fanatics? it doesnt
 

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Aggressive war is against the religion of Islam
i find it interesting that so many muslims are hell bent on the spread of islam and sharia. and dont fukkin tell me that isnt true

its a favorite tactic of the apologists to act like they just pull that sentiment outta thin air :heh:

do you ever stop and think that your god is so much of a hoe that hes all powerful but he can barely get 20% of people to worship him? or are you just content with patting yourselves on the back?
 

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The Prophet and the Rashidun Caliphate only continued the wars that we're started against them by the hostile Arab tribes, Persians and Romans. Subsequent to the Rashidun, we had the Ummayad Caliphate who of course conquered many parts of the world but that was through their own transgression. Muslims are not required to follow the Ummayad, Abbasid or Ottomon empires. They're not even really supposed to "follow" the Rashidun really. Islams ascendancy was very slow and they had a lot of enemies, so when they gained power they obviously had to finish off their enemies.


@the cac mamba just because it doesn't fit your narrative, it's not true. Ok that's cool, dude. Argue with someone who cares about your narrative or what you see, I care about the facts.
 

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The Prophet and the Rashidun Caliphate only continued the wars that we're started against them by the hostile Arab tribes, Persians and Romans. Subsequent to the Rashidun, we had the Ummayad Caliphate who of course conquered many parts of the world but that was through their own transgression. Muslims are not required to follow the Ummayad, Abbasid or Ottomon empires. They're not even really supposed to "follow" the Rashidun really. Islams ascendancy was very slow and they had a lot of enemies, so when they gained power they obviously had to finish off their enemies.
"DEFEND" YOURSELF WHILE EXPANDING AND ACQUIRING TERRITORY, BREHS! :troll:
 

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@the cac mamba just because it doesn't fit your narrative, it's not true. Ok that's cool, dude. Argue with someone who cares .
:russ: i saw you gettin hot under the collar a few posts back. foh breh. my narrative doesnt include your false prophet (piss be upon him) flying into the sky on a horse. i guess that makes me unreasonable :ehh:
 

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Japanese knew what was gon happen when they bombed Pearl Harbor.

America didn't stop until they controlled the whole South Pacific and Tokyo itself.
yea, as they shouldnt have stopped :what: save that level of deflection for your islam-related arguments
 

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The Prophet and the Rashidun Caliphate only continued the wars that we're started against them by the hostile Arab tribes, Persians and Romans. Subsequent to the Rashidun, we had the Ummayad Caliphate who of course conquered many parts of the world but that was through their own transgression. Muslims are not required to follow the Ummayad, Abbasid or Ottomon empires. They're not even really supposed to "follow" the Rashidun really. Islams ascendancy was very slow and they had a lot of enemies, so when they gained power they obviously had to finish off their enemies.


@the cac mamba just because it doesn't fit your narrative, it's not true. Ok that's cool, dude. Argue with someone who cares about your narrative or what you see, I care about the facts.
Miss me with this shyt.

Even during the Barbary War, these a$$holes were talking about a global caliphate.

Go read the documents.

http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=4574
 

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The Prophet and the Rashidun Caliphate only continued the wars that we're started against them by the hostile Arab tribes, Persians and Romans. Subsequent to the Rashidun, we had the Ummayad Caliphate who of course conquered many parts of the world but that was through their own transgression. Muslims are not required to follow the Ummayad, Abbasid or Ottomon empires. They're not even really supposed to "follow" the Rashidun really. Islams ascendancy was very slow and they had a lot of enemies, so when they gained power they obviously had to finish off their enemies.


@the cac mamba just because it doesn't fit your narrative, it's not true. Ok that's cool, dude. Argue with someone who cares about your narrative or what you see, I care about the facts.
also id like you to answer this. even yes or no would suffice

"do you ever stop and think that your god is so much of a hoe that hes all powerful but he can barely get 20% of people to worship him? or are you just content with patting yourselves on the back?" you 'chosen, enlightened' mothafukkas :mjlol:

i mean how does the god of all gods create us and concentrate solely on us, but put up a worse percentage than shaq from the line :huhldup:
 

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i mean of course this is arguable, but why does it excuse radical islam? why does the fact that our corrupt politicians grease israel=the quran being real and "allah" rewarding these fanatics? it doesnt

Because US funding enables it :what:
 
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