Is it arguable that both Drake and J. Cole are better songwriters than Kendrick?

[Zebruh]

Drake and Kendrick are both great songwriters.

I enjoy GKMC but let's not act like Drake ain't put out tracks like Marvin's Room, The Fear, The Motion, Look What You've Done, and Club Paradise. Drake can write the hell out of some songs, and where Kendrick has that advantage in his song formats and his flows, I think Drake has an advantage in the emotion/honesty in the music. Sounds mad girly and shyt but it's true. All in all, Drake excels at traditional song-writing, whereas Kendrick has a slightly experimental style with it. Especially given how well he executed Sing About Me.

Cole is too but he's definitely struggling with his hooks. shyt like Nobody's Perfect and Power Trip show how much better his music can be with dope hooks. Cole tried that Lost One's joint and it was cool but lacked impact.

 

[Ill-Yaz]

Drizzy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[intilectual recipricol]

Drake and Cole are just flat out better, unless you like a nikka changin his voyce (dont even ask me how) like Nikki Minaj (as if thats somehow lyrical )

empty out the magazine like BAH bah bah bah

 

[ZEB WALTON]

woah woah woah, didnt you see the other thread? kendrick is god round these parts...

 

[HARLEM AL]

hell no.

 

[Enchanted]

Kendrick already has three top 40 singles to Cole's one and a platinum album

and those three singles are all off one album

What? Cole has more than 1 top 40 hit. Do your research.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The thing about Cole is that he might have one or two songs...but THATS IT.

Outside of the songs we all know of, he doesn't have anything near those songs. Its like his creative energy gets zapped beyond 1 song a year.

 

[ECA]

What? Cole has more than 1 top 40 hit. Do your research.

Correction, Cole got two top 40 hits and it took him two albums. Kendrick got three off of one

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I think K Dot and Drake are pretty much equals with Cole behind them, but not by much. K Dot is superior as far as song structure goes. He routinely goes out of the box to give you more than the ordinary verse, hook, bridge sequence you're used to. Some of the structure in GKMC was crazy. Art of Peer Pressure Drake is straight textbook perfection with his songwriting. The structure is more traditional, but his execution is razor sharp. Perfect hooks, perfect bridges, perfect timing. Hence why dude is a hit factory. It's also why he's the hash tag king (). Besides writing shyt that ratchet bytches love to quote, he always makes sure that hashtag line gets the spotlight somehow.

Cole does his own production so I have to give him props there alone. He probably has the most on his shoulders as far as making a track come to fruition than the others. He writes some great hooks, he just needs to think twice sometimes about doing those hooks himself. And as much as I love Cole, out of these three, he's the one I sometimes (not often) find myself thinking there's something missing from this song. But when he gets everything right (Nobody's Perfect for example) he's just as good as the other two.

I wish that nikka Big K.R.I.T didn't fukk up with his debut. I always pictured these four nikkas being successful and always mentioned together. C'mon Krizzle

Wrong.

Cole needs to stop doing his own production. His recent album proves this.

Its holding him back. No other artist would rap on thos instrumentals. I'm not even talking about the melodies themselves, but rather the QUALITY of the sound of this instrumentals is completely piss-poor. Crap drums. Sorry bass. Weak highs. Stupid mixes.

He's not KRIT or Kanye or any other rapper/producer but he swears he can hang.

He can't.

Just because you CAN produce doesn't mean you SHOULD.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Drake and Kendrick are both great songwriters.

I enjoy GKMC but let's not act like Drake ain't put out tracks like Marvin's Room, The Fear, The Motion, Look What You've Done, and Club Paradise. Drake can write the hell out of some songs, and where Kendrick has that advantage in his song formats and his flows, I think Drake has an advantage in the emotion/honesty in the music. Sounds mad girly and shyt but it's true. All in all, Drake excels at traditional song-writing, whereas Kendrick has a slightly experimental style with it. Especially given how well he executed Sing About Me.

Cole is too but he's definitely struggling with his hooks. shyt like Nobody's Perfect and Power Trip show how much better his music can be with dope hooks. Cole tried that Lost One's joint and it was cool but lacked impact.

Don't forget all the songs Drake has written for other artists.

He damn near saved Alicia Keys career.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Cohesive album > individual songs.

As you know from hearing S.80 and GKMC there's nobody in Main stream HIP HOP who's better at making cohesive albums.

Listening to Keisha song, ADHD, Cartoons and cereal, Sing about me and money trees, I think it's clear kendrick is also the better song writer. Drake is a better hit maker, a better hook writer but that's about it.

What?

Son, we're talking about songs...and here you come trying to change the topic.

Even the songs that Drake and Kendrick did together wouldn't be as big without Drake doing the damn songs or setting them up.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Ye I'm sure you can when one created a near classic concept album that has received widespread critical acclaim and the other two haven't.

Like, what the fukk is going on in your mind to even create threads like this?



So this song concept is about Drake ultra simping about a woman and getting intoxicated because he can't be with her. And you know what that's literally the extent of this guys music, he doesn't write anything with any sort of story to it. Don't get me wrong it doesn't sound bad or anything but this is your modern day Ja Rule ladies and gentleman and U.E.N.O.

Don't try and switch up how you prefer ones music over the other to the other being a better songwriter and just accept the fact that you like RnB music marketed to women.

I guess a case could be made that J.Cole is a better song writer than Kendrick but I'll just go a long with the MAJORITY of critics and fans who are all in unison when I say that Kendrick is a better song writer. Cole hasn't shown his diversity as of yet, Born Sinner was a solid album and I'm sure he'll keep improving. I guess only time will tell but as of yet he's not better than Kendrick.

Are you seriously shytting on Marvins Room?

If ANY R&B singer had made than, ya'll would have applauded it. Because its a rapper, ya'll wanna hate.

Its a REAL ass song...but since he also is supposed to be a "rapper" you all throw it under a bus.

This is the EPITOME of relatable music.

Of course everyone online is an "alpha male" though...


I also find it funny ya'll are STILL defending Cole's "potential"...dude is the only artist with more "chances" than Ive ever seen.

He continues to underperform and STILL gets the chance to say "well maybe next time!"

 

[Enchanted]

Correction, Cole got two top 40 hits and it took him two albums. Kendrick got three off of one

Personally when I'm talkin about hits, I don't care where it lands on the billboard 100. Work Out, Can't Get Enough, Nobody's Perfect, Power Trip, In the Morning, those are all successful hit singles. At least in my opinion. Everyone knows those songs.


(Go 47 seconds into the video)
Can't pop up and perform shyt at other nikkas shows if it's not a hit

 

[Rakim Allah]

Drake is the best between the 3 at making Pop/Corporate Rap songs
J Cole is the best between the 3 at making Rapity Rap songs
K Dot is the best between the 3 at making fleshed out Hip Hop songs.

It depends on what type of songs you like the most within rap music. I love rapity rap but a lot cats are too one dimensional with it so I prefer a fleshed out song that doesn't pander to the pop/casual listener. So K Dot is my choice as the best songwriter overall between the 3.

 

[CELL]

Are you seriously shytting on Marvins Room?

If ANY R&B singer had made than, ya'll would have applauded it. Because its a rapper, ya'll wanna hate.

Its a REAL ass song...but since he also is supposed to be a "rapper" you all throw it under a bus.

This is the EPITOME of relatable music.

Of course everyone online is an "alpha male" though...

I also find it funny ya'll are STILL defending Cole's "potential"...dude is the only artist with more "chances" than Ive ever seen.

He continues to underperform and STILL gets the chance to say "well maybe next time!"

I'm no alpha male but you straight up have a vagina if you can relate to Marvins Room real fukking talk.

sorry breh