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Drake's too controversial tho. Everybody ain't geekin over Drake the way Coli Militants do. But at the same time, he's that guy. Whereas Kendrick, who do you REALLY know irl that has anything bad to say? How many Kendrick songs and features can you sit back and say "oh that's weak" compared to the latter, with the exception of Krit
Well kendrick detractors xall him boring and ive heard out of peoples mouths they say he putposely tries to be too artistic (dumb i know)

Lers look at it on popularity overall
Drake has more fans who huy his muisc more than any other guy uh named
Drake has more followers on twitter and instagram then any dude u named
Drake does big arenas more frequently then any guy u named
Whether rheres a backlash of drake or a lack of one with cole rhere is no way u can make an argument they are hifher unless youre talking lyrically and then that becomes debatable
 

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Lmao. Ross is Top 10/11th Man for sure. No doubt about that. Top 5 is slightly outta his league. Time has shown and will continue to show that until otherwise. Ross has oodles of good shyt but what's the "energy" behind the replay value, if you know what I mean. Like, do you want New Ross music or do you prefer the Older Ross music

I wasn't even a fan of the older ross stuff. didn't really start fukkin with his music hard til teflon don.
 

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Well kendrick detractors xall him boring and ive heard out of peoples mouths they say he putposely tries to be too artistic (dumb i know)

Lers look at it on popularity overall
Drake has more fans who huy his muisc more than any other guy uh named
Drake has more followers on twitter and instagram then any dude u named
Drake does big arenas more frequently then any guy u named


Whether theres a backlash of drake or a lack of one with cole rhere is no way u can make an argument they are hifher unless youre talking lyrically and then that becomes debatable
Drake has that type of Pull with People under 28. But overall he's not getting that type of Aura with the 30 & Older Crowd unless you're talking about Women. He just doesn't.


You can't ignore the backlash when it comes to this "Debate". Backlash is critical, and I don't mean by who has the Loudest Haters out the pack. There's a lot of people who genuinely feel some type of way about Drake being quoted for Lyrics that's on the same plateau as Rakim in that particular type of Pedestal. People just aren't going to ignore that becuz some 15 year old spends more money on a Phone Bill Texting in a month than Food in a Season
 

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big krit :camby:

replace him with big sean or meek mill

Big Sean is a great artist and he makes Rap universally for almost everybody but he's moreso Hype than anything. He's popular but he only shines when it's his time to shine. Nobody is really skressin a Big Sean verse like that. He's cool to have on songs but he ain't really dat nikka doe.


Y'all talkin' about spur of the moment type shyt foreal. I'm talkin about artists that are influencial and are in tune on the inside of us just as much as they're in tune with where they need to be at Socially & Entertainmentally. Big Sean Top 11, not Top 5. Everybody who I've ever ran into was fans of both Meek Mill and Big Sean but more people prefered to be inspired in some type of way by Meek than Big Sean. Whether it was listening to his music, quoting his shyt, or just talkin about the nikka in general. Whereas somebody like Drake commands you to bow down to his stature verses somebody like Big Sean just wowing you just becuz he's there. The feeling is just different


This Thread is just as much about the Art as it is the popularity contest as it is the connection. This is more than just those Coca-Cola Endorsement Deals (whom several of the Top 5 have had anyway). It's purely all about Hip Hop.
 

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nikkas talkin bout putting these characters in a top 5 before rick ross???

:comeon:

But who's really playing or talkin about that Ross album a few months after. He's not Sade. He doesn't just drop music and eat off of it for years, all of the while making everybody else step their game up off break, and then fall back and do whatever. Ross never did that



He made everybody step their Instrumental game up... which counts for something. It counts so much that he rounds out the Top 11.

No P.C. shyt, no included for "everybody" awards (aka throw a random name in Top Whatever Countdown just to showcase a hero for somebody who feels voiceless; followme). shyt authentic to the core B.


Top 10 is somewhat subjective becuz there's too many factors to throw in there, too much controversy to debate, too many dynamics to exaggerate in conversation. In other words, after 5 it gets really tricky if you're trying to be specifically in order. These are the safest and most importantly UNIVERSAL choices On one hand, how can you have a Top 10 and not have included (the O.G.) Gucci Mane, and on the other hand how can you have a Top 10 and not include Black Thought? The two are arguably some of the most influential people in our culture but are known & respected for totally different things (almost opposite of each other even though they're talking about the same things in retrospect).

Which is why Ross isn't in the Top 5. Ross makes great music. But everybody's not into The Frank Lucas Story. Some people actually wanna hear something Mature and geniunely prefer that approach to those types of stories than the way Ross do. Great Writer, Excellent Ear For Music, Intoxicating Aura, but the way the Business has been Stretched out and converted over the past few years along with it's constant "evolving", he just doesn't cut it.
 

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Black Dollar a better project than what half the nikkas on the list dropped tho :bryan:
I agree that "Black Dollar" is a Classic. But Ross has been apart of tons of Projects other than that one, most of which have been decent. "Rich Forever" is a Time Piece. But you can't give him Top 5 based off of Sympathy. He's got some fraudulent tallies against him too. The Correction's Officer thing isn't anything negative to mark up against William Roberts but even if he was at one point sellin dope (Which i can believe), he still didn't come up like Jeezy did in terms of Authenticity to the music he's actually putting out. Champagne Papi really is poppin bottles of Champagne when he wants, he can fukk a random Dime and bust her pockets if he wants, he gettin' money. Rick Ross ain't sendin' nikkaz to go kill nikkaz even if he rarely does in real life actually say that type of thing (go back and listen). Drake got 10 Bands even if Quentin helped put in it in his pockets.

Ross could be "Sixth Man" tho. But he ain't Top 5 tho. His music is disposable even if it's quality. You kinda gotta think about him like The Food Industry and everybody else in the Top 5 like Grocery Stores. At the end of the day there's still nothing more healthy and appealing than a Great Home cooked Meal that everybody can enjoy or gravitate to. Everybody has a Spot that they like to eat at but nothing beats Food cooked with Love in it. Ross is like Old Country Buffet and Kendrick is like your little brother's Mac-A-Roni N' Cheese.

Don't get it twisted, I'm not trying to demote Ross or discredit him. I'm just putting him in his proper context when it comes to in terms of ACTUALLY talking about Hip Hop and not just the Circus Acts & Clear Channel "Package Deals" surrounding it
 

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Drake's too controversial tho. Everybody ain't geekin over Drake the way Coli Militants do. But at the same time, he's that guy. Whereas Kendrick, who do you REALLY know irl that has anything bad to say? How many Kendrick songs and features can you sit back and say "oh that's weak" compared to the latter, with the exception of Krit

Most people I know aren't a fan of tpab and a lot think Kendrick boring(I'm not one of them)

Kendrick has a ton of weak features also

I agree that "Black Dollar" is a Classic. But Ross has been apart of tons of Projects other than that one, most of which have been decent. "Rich Forever" is a Time Piece. But you can't give him Top 5 based off of Sympathy. He's got some fraudulent tallies against him too. The Correction's Officer thing isn't anything negative to mark up against William Roberts but even if he was at one point sellin dope (Which i can believe), he still didn't come up like Jeezy did in terms of Authenticity to the music he's actually putting out. Champagne Papi really is poppin bottles of Champagne when he wants, he can fukk a random Dime and bust her pockets if he wants, he gettin' money. Rick Ross ain't sendin' nikkaz to go kill nikkaz even if he rarely does in real life actually say that type of thing (go back and listen). Drake got 10 Bands even if Quentin helped put in it in his pockets.

Ross could be "Sixth Man" tho. But he ain't Top 5 tho. His music is disposable even if it's quality. You kinda gotta think about him like The Food Industry and everybody else in the Top 5 like Grocery Stores. At the end of the day there's still nothing more healthy and appealing than a Great Home cooked Meal that everybody can enjoy or gravitate to. Everybody has a Spot that they like to eat at but nothing beats Food cooked with Love in it. Ross is like Old Country Buffet and Kendrick is like your little brother's Mac-A-Roni N' Cheese.

Don't get it twisted, I'm not trying to demote Ross or discredit him. I'm just putting him in his proper context when it comes to in terms of ACTUALLY talking about Hip Hop and not just the Circus Acts & Clear Channel "Package Deals" surrounding it
But is Drake sending dudes to throw people off hills, being in safe house and all that type of shyt? Ross eats crab meat and wing stop.


But all in all I fukks wit your list and its official. But really most don't knows krit like they do the others, so u can't say They don't have nothin bad to say if they don't pay much attention to him.
 

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if this is a pure skill list KDot is the only one that belongs

if its based on popularity he still belongs

Kendrick won :wow:

Not to mention his authenticity and the fact that he's not riddled with Spin & Debate. His music speaks for itself. Verses some marketing company or Drake trying to constantly throw himself out there beating his Life and his Works into your head.


Drake is the popular Gifted kid in High School that everybody loves. People are always watching him and everything that he does. He's always being talked about. But Kendrick is like the drug dealer who always got that good on deck. You'll remember him and fukk with him way after everything is said and done. He forces you or meets you halfway to your growth as a Human Being and sees to your growth in spirit, Drake just inspires you to Live Life and go hard.

And if those two ever went head to head then it's safe to say that K Dot would wax him. Drake's sarcastic aura (according to his Competing record) would be a little diminished because of the artist who he'd be battling. So much so that it would cause the People to genuinely feel a certain way in a way that Meek couldn't. You could almost relate it to Biggie vs. 2Pac but with different dynamics and a different type of energy so to say
 

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You kinda gotta think about him like The Food Industry and everybody else in the Top 5 like Grocery Stores. At the end of the day there's still nothing more healthy and appealing than a Great Home cooked Meal that everybody can enjoy or gravitate to. Everybody has a Spot that they like to eat at but nothing beats Food cooked with Love in it. Ross is like Old Country Buffet and Kendrick is like your little brother's Mac-A-Roni N' Cheese.

Don't get it twisted, I'm not trying to demote Ross or discredit him. I'm just putting him in his proper context when it comes to in terms of ACTUALLY talking about Hip Hop and not just the Circus Acts & Clear Channel "Package Deals" surrounding it
I see where you coming from.

Then going by this criteria... Wasalu #1 :banderas:

Nah but forreal the masses elect Cole and Kendrick as "that dude". KRIT don't get his just due.
 
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