Is Jay-Z Ruining His Label By Forcing His Artists To Do Tidal Exclusives?
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And he Fuked it up. Not Jay. And besides that's coming from a junkies mouth so..None of Jay artists in his prime were worth a push but Cam and he went Plat once he got that chain on his neck.
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so since they aren't worth it, just steal their shyt?
not drop them and let another label do it... like when 50 wanted beans but jay wouldn't let him go... nah just keep them there, give them a budget, then halfway through the marketing cycle, take the rest of the budget and use it for your own... instead of using your own money, you take from your broker artist
but that's not a snake move
Can u break down to me how Jay z used Roc artists budgets to fund his albums?so since they aren't worth it, just steal their shyt?
not drop them and let another label do it... like when 50 wanted beans but jay wouldn't let him go... nah just keep them there, give them a budget, then halfway through the marketing cycle, take the rest of the budget and use it for your own... instead of using your own money, you take from your broker artist
but that's not a snake move
What albums were these?
what Rocafella albums suffered because Jay took all the money?
Help me understand because I see no concrete proof
so this album is FREE to download, streaming ONLY on Tidal (which no one has), and album is :flabbynfif:
smart business
smart business
so since they aren't worth it, just steal their shyt?
not drop them and let another label do it... like when 50 wanted beans but jay wouldn't let him go... nah just keep them there, give them a budget, then halfway through the marketing cycle, take the rest of the budget and use it for your own... instead of using your own money, you take from your broker artist
but that's not a snake move
So is that why most of the rap nikkas were getting 1 video at def jam and pretty much getting the
treatment afterwards?
when he was president at Def Jam?
Prince.Skeletor
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U fools thinking Jay is a great guy is beyond unreal to the point of fantasy.
ask DMX or Redman or the other names mentioned.
Jay done f'ed NUMEROUS very talented careers.
ask DMX or Redman or the other names mentioned.
Jay done f'ed NUMEROUS very talented careers.
So basically your argument is fukk facts, I believe what I believe
This right here is why Tidal is getting backlash. Cats have no business sense and only talk about it when it involves rappers and so they have no perspective or idea. Def Jam was struggling, Jay was President, how much was he supposed to give an LL Cool J project in 2006 aside from the two videos and TV spots? How much was he supposed to give Ghostface besides putting Ne-Yo on his single when Ne-Yo was in his do no wrong streak?So is that why most of the rap nikkas were getting 1 video at def jam and pretty much getting the
when he was president at Def Jam?
How much money was he supposed to invest in the Memphis Bleek project? Jay invested in Rihanna, Ross, Jeezy, Ne-Yo, Kanye and others. The artists with the most potential get the largest budgets that's no surprise. Labels do not have the time, nor the money to groom artists anymore and all those disgruntled dudes were veterans. How many units of NORE were trying to cop in high school? Juelz Santana was invested in as well because of the Dipset movement. Labels give budgets out based on the public's response. You're mad at Jay for not A and R'ing all these projects. Most artists don't blow fam, you only notice it because now a famous black dude is at the top.
If Jay is fukking so many nikkas over, why do superstars and up and comers keep coming over to be managed by his company? Kanye, Rihanna, Shakira, Big Sean, Meek Mill, (formerly) Wale, Demi Lovato, Nick Jonas, Emeli Sande', DJ Mustard, etc.
None of this shyt is confirmed and no one does that in business? You think MSNBC just let Keith Olbermann go to CNN just because they did not want him anymore? No, he has a non-compete clause. fukk is wrong with you?so since they aren't worth it, just steal their shyt?
not drop them and let another label do it... like when 50 wanted beans but jay wouldn't let him go... nah just keep them there, give them a budget, then halfway through the marketing cycle, take the rest of the budget and use it for your own... instead of using your own money, you take from your broker artist
but that's not a snake move
And how could Jay hold up Beans when Beans was on Dame Dash Music Group not on Roc-a-fella? Jay let Beans go years before he started bytching. How the fukk did Jay take someone else's budget and use it for his own? How retarded do you have to be to think Jay Z needs someone else's budget? HE IS fukkING JAY Z! When he came out of retirement he was in Budweiser commercials and HP commercials. You cannot be serious
The dude who has a 10 year 150 million dollar deal with Live Nation needs to steal someone's budget? Have you lost your fukking mind?
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A week to look at a contract?Earlier today Complex Magazine reported that Rihanna has "left" her longtime label, Def Jam, joining the in-house imprint at Shawn "Jay Z" Carter's management company Roc Nation. The 26-year-old singer's next album, the follow-up to 2012's "Unapologetic,” will still be distributed by Def Jam, with an announcement on official plans expected "soon," according to sources.
While Rihanna will be a frontline artist going forward with Roc Nation's label, which is distributed by the Universal Music Group, Def Jam will still be involved with the project. In fact, the label just met with the singer last week to discuss her next moves, sources confirm to Billboard.
she's signed to one nikka, that's signed to another nikka, that's signed to three nikkas, now that's bad luck
that fukking line can be felt by 95% of the artists in the game right now
they wave that big fukking check at you and you think.... oooooooooooooooo money
i promise you they don't even read the contract... nor sit down for 7-10 days going over it with lawyers to fine comb through it and explain all the details... how else can you have a meeting with nikkas and sign the same day... a contract that's going to own you for the next 5-6 albums and you not even taking a day to read/think it over
they don't even care... till it's too late... then you end up like rita ora... thinking you just gonna leave... not realizing you signed away your right to do that shyt too... now you gotta pay to leave... but you ain't got any money... so where do you get it.... the next label who will buy you out.... for a price
That means they would have to wait a week to write about it on social media
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#blessed
It's stupid as fukk.
However Rihanna seems loyal, the roc boys found her at 15, made her a star and she's been down ever since. From Memphis Bleek to Tidal, always down.
Her bread is however not from CDs it's from those tours. I remember her last tour she did like 10 sold out shows in a row in London, of an album that barely broke plat.
However Rihanna seems loyal, the roc boys found her at 15, made her a star and she's been down ever since. From Memphis Bleek to Tidal, always down.
Her bread is however not from CDs it's from those tours. I remember her last tour she did like 10 sold out shows in a row in London, of an album that barely broke plat.
The whole basis for "fukk Jay-Z" stems from Ether which was a bunch of bullshyt so it's just par for the course at this pointSo basically your argument is fukk facts, I believe what I believe
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The fact that you haven't been able to monetize what you do is shameful..None of this shyt is confirmed and no one does that in business? You think MSNBC just let Keith Olbermann go to CNN just because they did not want him anymore? No, he has a non-compete clause. fukk is wrong with you?
How the fukk did Jay take someone else's budget and use it for his own? How retarded do you have to be to think Jay Z needs someone else's budget? HE IS fukkING JAY Z! When he came out of retirement he was in Budweiser commercials and HP commercials. You cannot be serious
The dude who has a 10 year 150 million dollar deal with Live Nation needs to steal someone's budget? Have you lost your fukking mind?
Let me represent you..
fukkery > Facts on this here Coli. Don't even waste your timeSo basically your argument is fukk facts, I believe what I believe
This right here is why Tidal is getting backlash. Cats have no business sense and only talk about it when it involves rappers and so they have no perspective or idea. Def Jam was struggling, Jay was President, how much was he supposed to give an LL Cool J project in 2006 aside from the two videos and TV spots? How much was he supposed to give Ghostface besides putting Ne-Yo on his single when Ne-Yo was in his do no wrong streak?
How much money was he supposed to invest in the Memphis Bleek project? Jay invested in Rihanna, Ross, Jeezy, Ne-Yo, Kanye and others. The artists with the most potential get the largest budgets that's no surprise. Labels do not have the time, nor the money to groom artists anymore and all those disgruntled dudes were veterans. How many units of NORE were trying to cop in high school? Juelz Santana was invested in as well because of the Dipset movement. Labels give budgets out based on the public's response. You're mad at Jay for not A and R'ing all these projects. Most artists don't blow fam, you only notice it because now a famous black dude is at the top.
If Jay is fukking so many nikkas over, why do superstars and up and comers keep coming over to be managed by his company? Kanye, Rihanna, Shakira, Big Sean, Meek Mill, (formerly) Wale, Demi Lovato, Nick Jonas, Emeli Sande', DJ Mustard, etc.