Is Jay-Z Ruining His Label By Forcing His Artists To Do Tidal Exclusives?

[FromBillionsCameOne]

so since they aren't worth it, just steal their shyt?

not drop them and let another label do it... like when 50 wanted beans but jay wouldn't let him go... nah just keep them there, give them a budget, then halfway through the marketing cycle, take the rest of the budget and use it for your own... instead of using your own money, you take from your broker artist


but that's not a snake move

As if Dash had nothing to do with it. They ran a business.

 

[stacy]

Yes. The entire company is shady af. Tidal is a sinking ship. Look at what they did to Rihanna. Besides, you can't force someone to buy gold plated doo doo anyways.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

Yes. The entire company is shady af. Tidal is a sinking ship. Look at what they did to Rihanna. Besides, you can't force someone to buy gold plated doo doo anyways.

Yep

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

None of this shyt is confirmed and no one does that in business? You think MSNBC just let Keith Olbermann go to CNN just because they did not want him anymore? No, he has a non-compete clause. fukk is wrong with you? And how could Jay hold up Beans when Beans was on Dame Dash Music Group not on Roc-a-fella? Jay let Beans go years before he started bytching.

How the fukk did Jay take someone else's budget and use it for his own? How retarded do you have to be to think Jay Z needs someone else's budget? HE IS fukkING JAY Z! When he came out of retirement he was in Budweiser commercials and HP commercials. You cannot be serious

The dude who has a 10 year 150 million dollar deal with Live Nation needs to steal someone's budget? Have you lost your fukking mind?

none of this is confirmed by the damn CEO of his label at the time confirmed it

nikkas want to believe shyt they make up in their heads WITH NO CONFIRMATION over words of people who were there


you do know companies budget shyt out correct?? they don't just have a bank account with 100 million in it to do what they want... they say this milly going to bleek album... this milly going to beans album... this milly going to the young guns.... oh jay wants to drop and we put aside 5 milly for him.... but nah he'll say go ahead and take 500k out of those 3 artists and make mine 6.5



i don't care how you slice it or make it sound good in your head.... if you're an artist with a mil budget who suddenly gets it slashed cause your boss wants more.... then that's a fukking snake ass move

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

So is that why most of the rap nikkas were getting 1 video at def jam and pretty much getting the treatment afterwards?

when he was president at Def Jam?

this was at roc-a-fella

this is why everyone on the roc would drop back to back to back with 1 video and then he'd have a 6 month rollout for his with 8 videos

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Rihana: Hey Jay I need a strong comeback & a good release with strong distribution.

Jay: Nah u gonna do a Tidal exclusive.


It's fukking sad man.....

Apple does the same thing?

 

[BK The Great]

nothing is "exclusive" anymore. once it's out on the net it spreads like wildfire. it mgiht be better like that, if nobody wants to listen to your music your career is pretty much done.

 

[BK The Great]

nothing is "exclusive" anymore. once it's out on the net it spreads like wildfire. it mgiht be better like that, if nobody wants to listen to your music your career is pretty much done.

 

[10bandz]

Hov stans are hilarious. Jay-Z my favorite rapper but clearly didn't want no one at the Roc blowing up more than him. Look at the shade he threw at the Dips and Cam. They on was Roc-A-Fella but them dudes held their own, they were building a fanbase/style/slang...a whole culture around them. They had mad love in NYC regardless of Hov or not. Everyones else had to lean on Hov but the Dips didn't. Dame + Dipset was enough with Hov being on the outside. He didn't like that shyt AT ALL and thats why he didn't do the Welcome to NYC video. Imagine how big that shyt would've been.

 

[BK The Great]

Hov stans are hilarious. Jay-Z my favorite rapper but clearly didn't want no one at the Roc blowing up more than him. Look at the shade he threw at the Dips and Cam. They on was Roc-A-Fella but them dudes held their own, they were building a fanbase/style/slang...a whole culture around them. They had mad love in NYC regardless of Hov or not. Everyones else had to lean on Hov but the Dips didn't. Dame + Dipset was enough with Hov being on the outside. He didn't like that shyt AT ALL and thats why he didn't do the Welcome to NYC video. Imagine how big that shyt would've been.

guys like Jay-Z & 50 Cent were a cancer to NY Hip Hop. they did more negative than positive.

 

[Eye Cue DA COLI GAWD]

No one gives a fukk about exclusives... especially on Tidal.

I got Google Music. If you shyt don't show up in my library I just won't listen to ot or I bootleg it.

Simple.

These labels hustling backwards on that one.

 

[bouncy]

HELL NO!

Exclusives allow an artist to build a true fan base. If they just throw music out there, and hope it sells, you are not really concentrating your core fans. That is what people don't understand, we are living in the best times for an artist who is willing to make moves based on business, and the art. You can actually get real personal with fans, and have a more consistent source of income. Never in music had this been able to happen. I would rather get more money from a smaller fan base, but have consistent income, then selling millions, and a few years down the line, I'm not hot anymore, and my label drops me.

I wouldn't do an exclusive with any other streaming service, though. Tidal has a different type of consumer then the others streaming services. If someone is willing to pay the price, that means they will spend more money on merchandise, and shows. The other services has consumers who want a lot for cheap. Sort of like fast food eaters,

What artist need to do is give exclusive ALBUMS to Tidal, and other songs to the other services.

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

I like Jay Z.....with you jay z nut holders I swear on everything yall act as if
your not allowed to say anything bad about dude.

Be 100% honest with yourself when you answer this question
don't lie and make up stuff.

Outside of Kanye and me 4 artist that Jay has signed that reach superstar status
and out grew their potential........

And before you start Kanye made Kanye. honestly speaking
Jay-z wanted nothing to do with Ye.

Ne-yo, Rihanna, and that's all I got.

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

HELL NO!

Exclusives allow an artist to build a true fan base. If they just throw music out there, and hope it sells, you are not really concentrating your core fans. That is what people don't understand, we are living in the best times for an artist who is willing to make moves based on business, and the art. You can actually get real personal with fans, and have a more consistent source of income. Never in music had this been able to happen. I would rather get more money from a smaller fan base, but have consistent income, then selling millions, and a few years down the line, I'm not hot anymore, and my label drops me.

I wouldn't do an exclusive with any other streaming service, though. Tidal has a different type of consumer then the others streaming services. If someone is willing to pay the price, that means they will spend more money on merchandise, and shows. The other services has consumers who want a lot for cheap. Sort of like fast food eaters,

What artist need to do is give exclusive ALBUMS to Tidal, and other songs to the other services.

However, the exclusive is for one week. Tidal "banked" because it isn't working for Prince, to gain subscribers.

 

[McPiff]

Yes. The entire company is shady af. Tidal is a sinking ship. Look at what they did to Rihanna. Besides, you can't force someone to buy gold plated doo doo anyways.

Yeah you right!

Lets forget facts and lets forget that Rihanna is a part owner or Tidal yeaaaah fuukk'kkeeerryyyyyyyy