Is JJ Watt on the juice?

[DonKnock]

Was arguing this with some of my bros yesterday.

Dude put on 60 pounds of lean muscle between leaving Central Michigan and the time he was drafted (< 3 years)

His listed vertical (37.5) is higher than Dwight Howard, Blake Griffin, DeAndre Jordan, and it almost on par with Jeff Green's.

He's 295 but still able to come within 3 inches of the World Record box jump


He recently took this picture (below), but he is allegedly eating an average of 9000 calories per day. This is an insane amount regularly, but not so unfathomable when someone is on hormones.

His only real injury has been this nasty looking bruise and from what I'm seeing steroid use makes your skin bruise much easier




Thoughts?

 

[Jesus]

Truly don't know.......

 

[ShenJingPoQi]

When will people realise there is no such thing as natural professional athlete.

 

[DonKnock]

When will people realise there is no such thing as natural professional athlete.

I'm not saying that he's not just eating wheaties for all those gains. With those metrics I think there's no way he isn't taking multiple things on the banned substance list.

What's so shocking though is how bold he is about the shyt:

J.J. Watt says he's proud of how he has naturally grown into an imposing physical specimen.

The Houston Texans' All-Pro pass rusher is aware that some people believe he used artificial means to bulk up to 290 pounds after beginning his college career at 230. He told CBSSports.com's Pete Prisco on Wednesday that he began puberty late. He also said his relative lack of muscle definition should be a sign that he's not taking short cuts.


IYER: Watt wants to be a two-way threat

"Anybody who knows me knows the amount of work and dedication I put into it. There is no way it would even cross my mind to do anything like that," Watt told Prisco.

"It's insulting in one sense, but a compliment, I guess, on the other," Watt later told Prisco. "You can't disrespect the game like that. I can't disrespect my family, my friends, myself. No way you can ever do that to yourself. (The talk about his physique is) super gratifying because I work my ass of to be who I am, to be the size I am and play the way I do. The most gratifying part of the success is looking back at the hard work I put in."

Watt also told Prisco he's "glad" the NFL is beginning to test players for human growth hormone.

"They can test me as much as they want whenever they want. I want to prove to people that I do it the right way," he told Prisco.

 

[Auger]

6'-4" 290lbs low body fat? come on breh

 

[brother walt]

no damn way yea he on juice

 

[semtex]

If he was black I'd say no. He white so yes

 

[Remote]

Vertical has more to do with measuring explosiveness.
It's not really a "height" thing.

 

[YaBoy]

Does he have a "steroid body" tho? He doesn't seem to have that much definition or an unattainable physique. Maybe he's just a naturally explosive freak of nature

 

[DonKnock]

Vertical has more to do with measuring explosiveness.
It's not really a "height" thing.

You really think he can generate enough force NATURALLY to overcome the 120 lbs difference, for only three inches less than this guy tho?


Hell, this world record guy is probably on shyt too

 

[ShenJingPoQi]

I'm not saying that he's not just eating wheaties for all those gains. With those metrics I think there's no way he isn't taking multiple things on the banned substance list.

What's so shocking though is how bold he is about the shyt:

It is extremely easy to cheat. The drug cheats are always ahead of the testers. Armstrong was literally laughing at everyone's face. Only idiots actually get caught

 

[USSInsiders]

If there are grown adults that seriously think Watt and the entire league aren't taking shyt, then you're a dumbass.

EVERYBODY that's serious about being the best takes shyt. You have to. If you're a pro and you're not taking some type of PED, then you're an idiot. Plain and simple.

All of these guys are on shyt. All of them.

Right now you can go and on the internet buy some research chems that'll make you secrete more GH, you can buy legit test from an UGL, you could buy chems that change your glucose uptake so you can increase endurance and shred bodyfat—these compounds are very affordable and very effective.

These are the best athletes on the planet, and they have access to every goddamn doctor and high-grade lab known to man,so they can get good shyt that is proven and non-toxic.

Tests don't mean a goddamn thing because:

#1. The league really, really doesn't give a fukk. They make sure a couple guys piss hot so it looks like they're cracking down on it. Notice it's almost always irrelevant guys or retards that don't know how to use a substance with a short enough half life.

#2. You can't fukking catch them. There's forms of tren that have like 12 hour half lives, and you cannot test for HGH. And now we have peptides and other drugs that are virtually indetectable. If you know what you're doing, you can easily pass the tests

JJ Watt is saying the right thing, but real talk, he's on the shyt just like all the other guys are. It doesn't take away from his genetic gifts and talents, but these drugs enhance him even more.

Physique is a terrible indicator of drug use. Keep in mind: skinny ass fukking Lance Armstrong was taking test and HGH.

Anderson Silva is by no means a freakish looking guy and he was on Masteron, which is a great strength compound that puts on minimal mass.

 

[DonKnock]

It is extremely easy to cheat. The drug cheats are always ahead of the testers. Armstrong was literally laughing at everyone's face. Only idiots actually get caught

This is what I've been thinking because of how cocky he's been about it. The NFL didn't even test for HGH until last season so I'm sure everyone and their grama was on it.

He is obviously talented and genetically gifted. But there's a line where genetics can't take you past. If he's really such a workout warrior in the NFL, where people are getting caught regularly, you gotta be on some serious shyt to stand out of that group

 

[USSInsiders]

Does he have a "steroid body" tho? He doesn't seem to have that much definition or an unattainable physique. Maybe he's just a naturally explosive freak of nature

There is no "steroid body." I'll show you pictures of idiots on 500mg of test and tren that look like absolute garbage. Your genetics, training regimen and diet are bigger determinants of how you'll look.

Like I said in my post, physique is completely, 100-percent irrelevant to determining whether or not a guy is on gear.HOWEVER, there are certain compounds that will give off red flags. To me personally I think people on tren are usually the easiest to spot.

Remember, there are all sorts of different compounds and different levels of dosages. Don't compare a football player or athlete that's taking in tons of carbs, tons of fats, tons of water, to an in-season bodybuilder who's shredding to 6-percent body fat like a Kai Greene

 

[USSInsiders]

This is what I've been thinking because of how cocky he's been about it. The NFL didn't even test for HGH until last season so I'm sure everyone and their grama was on it.

He is obviously talented and genetically gifted. But there's a line where genetics can't take you past. If he's really such a workout warrior in the NFL, where people are getting caught regularly, you gotta be on some serious shyt to stand out of that group

Watt is always talking about how he takes naps constantly and sleeps 10 hours a day. One of the side effects of exogenous GH is lethargy and constantly needing to sleep