Is Joey Bad NY's last hope?
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2manyFCKNrappers
mentally i measure kilos
the passion. I really got introduced to the game hearing black star. Before that I was used to whatever was on te radio. I was
at the skill and the artistry.
I was surprised to hear you NY cats don't care about progressing the art no more
like i said, there are different types of cats these days claiming to be hip hop heads. if you have the stories and the memories to go along with the soundtrack of the time of the reign, there's no way you wouldn't want it back. the only people saying they don't care are the ones that really have no connection to the culture as far as living it. they have no insight into the depth of how ill it was to grow up during that time.
i'm not longing for the boom bap sound that got us on the map, but i do wanna see a NY spitta that can make all kinds of records and embodies the attitude. too many of them wanna be trap rappers from NY. i know a few unsigned cats i know here that got it. it's just about finding the right fan who remembers the reality and making them feel that feeling again. new york is big enough on it's own to where all an mc would need to do is focus on their hometown. why would we travel all over the world to revive a sound that only lives here? nikkas need to walk around the city and drive through the streets. they need to hit the major aves and remember what makes this city like no other, then just tell the story.
Burger King
Beefin
nah hes not NY's last hope because hip-hop isnt just a phase ... southern dominance is a phase but rap music will go through many other phases in years to come just wait...
King Biko
A King With A Concubine
Being from the south I can tell u that southern dominance is over with. Rap music is about as universal as its gonna get.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
The fact that you say this without certainty means you haven't been here recently, and if you knew better you'd know that this is EXACTLY what's happening, but more importantly, it's a reflection of the city itself.
Does A$AP embody the quintessential Harlem nikka? In 2013, yes.
Does French for the BX? Yes. The people that claim they don't, have an outdated perception of what kids like there, what they dress like, and how they live.
Hol up dawg
Jus stick to talking bout ya borough
Rocky is my mans 100 grand n all. But them ASAP nikkas DO NOT represent the typical harlem nikka in 2013. They themselves will tell you that.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
They DO though. You think the typical Harlem kid is living, dressing, and talking like the A-Mafia's of the world? The Cam's of the world? HELL NO. They're too busy getting uprooted outta their neighborhood to be living that dusty. Kids running around with their SoHo gear, skinny jeans, french braids, listening to nothing but MMG and some southern trap shyt. Maybe when A$AP was coming up they were the black sheep of the hood, but nowadays that's what these kids wanna run around like. They're not outcasts anymore amongst what kids are doing.Hol up dawg
Jus stick to talking bout ya borough
Rocky is my mans 100 grand n all. But them ASAP nikkas DO NOT represent the typical harlem nikka in 2013. They themselves will tell you that.
Go to any party here and try, just try to play a Joey Bada$$ track, a Slaughterhouse track, a Prodigy /Alchemist track, a Uncle Murda track and you will see the most disinterested motherfukkers out here. But play that Hannah Montana, Hannah Montana, Hannah Montana, Hannah Montana, and you would think they took the party back where it belonged.
I was weirded out by it too initially, but these kids LOVE these new NY dudes. They just do. The closest thing to a typical NY nikka is someone like Meek Mill and he's not from here.
Son im from harlem. I can show you pictures from harlem yesterday. I am telling you as a FACT. NOBODY in harlem dresses like asap. At least not on my side.
Thats what makes ASAP so special, cuz he is NOT like the typical harlem cat. As for gentrification its not even as bad as people on the net make it seem. Nobody is getting ran out of their buildings. No1 doing French braids n soho swag either.
Please dont hop on the internet talking bout areas you not from b. You gonna confuse the cats who not from here
ogc163
Superstar
French Montana is NOT the typical Bronx nikka, cats ain't out there speaking with a southern drawl wearing ugly ass t-shirts with fukking cheetah arms. Harlem nikkas are dikkriders (sorry Rominati) 
especially west Harlem nikkas, so their style is subject to change from year to year. East Harlem cats style is more similar to the South Bronx and thats always been the case, when I listen to Dave East and Bodega Bamz THATS shyt sounds like modern NYC... with a production sound that is updated and fresh. The production on Bodega's mixtape should serve as the template for new New York imo. Problem is both of those dudes have don't have that IT factor, and should be serving as the Jim Jones #2 man in a crew not as the main dudes. Joey has no charisma, his production is hit or miss, and most importantly his image is the epitome of Black middle class Brooklyn Theo type of nikkas that run around exaggerating some fukking struggle narrative. He will never blow up.
ogc163
Superstar
Contrary to popular belief, most of the NY heads in my age group are more influenced by the early 2000's NYC/Philly sound ALOT more than any southern influence. ASAP and French the ones who blew up, but most of the dudes their age don't rap on that southern influenced tip.
Joey has no charisma, his production is hit or miss, and most importantly his image is the epitome of Black middle class Brooklyn Theo type of nikkas that run around exaggerating some fukking struggle narrative. He will never blow up.
Its all hood haha. Jus as long as we making it clear that that other nikka is out here spitting straight FABLES to these suburbanites n cacs on the net.
Son out here spreading straight up false info, making these outsiders think they know the scoop of the hoods in NY
As for the future of NY rap its all good, im in the streets, my ear is on who is who and what is what. Ive done tried to put these nikkas on my damn self
. But im pretty sure everything will work out the way its suppose to be in time. The star potential is there, its just that they dont have the work ethic.A whole bunch of Juelz Santanas
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
Son im from harlem. I can show you pictures from harlem yesterday. I am telling you as a FACT. NOBODY in harlem dresses like asap. At least not on my side.
Thats what makes ASAP so special, cuz he is NOT like the typical harlem cat. As for gentrification its not even as bad as people on the net make it seem. Nobody is getting ran out of their buildings. No1 doing French braids n soho swag either.
Please dont hop on the internet talking bout areas you not from b. You gonna confuse the cats who not from here
Unless you live on the far east side from Lex on east, it's a lot harder to afford to live in Harlem than it used. Go through Convent Ave and tell me you don't feel like you're on the Upper West Side. I know Harlem more than you think. It's not the way it was even 5-7 years ago. And the tastes in music, it's less than that. Like homie earlier said, he heard Ocho Cinco blasting outta a car. That's what these kids fukk with. I was chillin one time and if you heard the discussions these kids was having over who was poppin or who was nice or "this nikka got swag" you'd wanna stab your ears. The kids in my age group, the ones that came up on Dipset during high school and shyt, yeah we don't fukk with the styles as far as dressing and shyt is concerned but these youngins copy these other dudes now.
Same shyt with French. You think kids were out here saying HANH and wearing these ridiculous expensive ass shirts with crazy ass designs and pyramids and shyt in the front when French and A$AP and these other kids were coming up? No. They were too busy wearing Stop Snitching shirts and baggy jeans that showed your ass crack. It's recently now that kids are out here with high top fades and skinny jeans with the foams and all that shyt. Older cats like you and I, we may look a little more like Meek and dress like a little less assuming. There's plenty of people who dress like that and still keep it kinda normal, but that's not what these kids are doing.
That shyt looks like the west side on a brick evening when everyone rocks hoodies regardless. That's one that won't die, the hoodie. That's damn near a uniform.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
Joey has no charisma, his production is hit or miss, and most importantly his image is the epitome of Black middle class Brooklyn Theo type of nikkas that run around exaggerating some fukking struggle narrative. He will never blow up.
I hate to say it, but a lot of them do. Go to a Dr. Jays or a Jimmy Jazz and just look at the front display and you're gonna be like
East Harlem motherfukkers still dress like Vado and Juelz and shyt. Polo'd up. Half the motherfukkers north of 96th still dress somewhat normally, but without turning this into the gentrification thread in TLR, a lot of that fashion influence from other areas been crept up.
Musically though, that Mike Will, Lex Luger, pretty much any MMG /Trippy type of shyt, that's what we gravitate towards. If it's gonna be slowed down, it better be on some JUSTICE League smooth shyt. Anything else either gets no play past your iPod or no one cares for it.
Meek Mill has that balance that people love so much. Like I said in another thread, when I witnessed that gravitation firsthand, you couldn't deny that shyt.
You like half right and half wrong.
What the other guy said in this thread was the perfect description of NY in 2013. We just DONT CARE. The youth dont care about the 90s or that that "lets bring it back!" shyt like that, so they will bump a Chief Keef or a Rich Homie Quan with no qualms. You right bout that. HOWEVER, when it comes to the hood and the fashion sense of the youth. They still mostly on that ACG, Polo, hoodie ish. Even the younger generation.
Im actually one of the few ASAP defenders in Harlem. Most of harlem dont even fukk with them like that. Let alone be influenced by them
Taking it further. NOBODY even knows about Joey like that out in the streets. If I was to walk up to a young nikka right now and say what you bumpin he'll prolly tell me Lil Durk, Future, n Drake
As for gentrification, the prices havent gone up for almost everyone I know. To my knowledge the prices dont effect natives, only ppl who are trying to move in. Like I said in another thread, my aunt only pays 800 a month for her crib that she has been living in for almost 10 years. N she make waay more than that. Thats why most young nikkas who grew up in Harlem move to the South bronx when they are of age, cuz they aint trying to live in they momma crib n cant afford a spot on their own.
