Is LeBron James the Greatest Scorer Ever?
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2014 was Lebron's most graceful finals. Shame that it went to waste.
LMAO NOT ONE NEG ON OP.....FOLKS AT THIS FORUM IS PATHETIC
NOPE....THE FACT THAT HE NEVER HAD TO PROVE HIMSELF IS PART OF WHY HE LACKS KILLER INSTINCT AND PURE BASKETBALL SKILLS (SHOOTING, FOOTWORK, POST-GAME, ETC). HE'S ALWAYS BEEN THE BIGGEST AND STRONGEST. IF HE FACED ADVERSITY EARLY ON ALA KOBE N MJ, HE WOULD MOST DEFINITELY BE MENTALLY STRONGER FOR IT. THATS WHY HE NOT ON THEY LEVEL.
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LMAO STOP THAT
at Kobe NOT being doubleteamed by Boston. Expose yourself brehs. Doubles and triples all throughout this video. You definitely like 17 years old.
LEBRON'S OFFENSE NEVER REQUIRED THIS KINDA DEFENSE. PERIOD.
I've been watching basketball since the 1980s. I was stanning Clyde Drexler before he'd even made the playoffs.
To claim that ANY team has "3 defenders on a player on most plays" is beyond stupid. Detroit didn't win by triple-teaming Kobe, NO ONE can actually win that way. Detroit won by fukking with Kobe's head and getting him to break the offense.
Chauncey Billups: Our game plan was very calculated. We knew we were going to play Shaq straight-up. We knew there was no way we could stop Shaq straight-up. And there was also no way we could stop Kobe straight-up. But, if we’re going to play Shaq straight-up, [the Lakers’] eyes are going to get big, which means they’re going to keep throwing it down there. We’re telling Ben the whole time, “Take fouls when you need to, but don’t get yourself into foul trouble. You need to give up a layup, cool, we’re going to get what we want on the other side.” But what’s going to happen is Mr. Bryant is going to get a little discouraged with getting no touches and now the second half comes around…now he’s pressing. He’s going to start coming down and just breaking the offense. When you do that, you’re done—you’re playing right into our hands. Even if you start making those shots, you’re finished.
Who the hell said that Kobe wasn't double-teamed by Boston? This isn't the lazy man-to-man coverage era. EVERY elite scorer, and even a lot of other players, are double-teamed and shaded in a lot of situations. It's what the zone allows for you. Hell, when Lebron made his game-winning layup in double overtime against the Pistons in 2007, he literally had 5 guys within a step of him when he made the shot.
It doesn't mean they leaving two guys open to triple-team you all game.
QUIT FUCCIN ACTIN LIKE U DONT KNOW WHAT HE'S GETTIN AT THO....LEBRON HAS NEVER BEEN GUARDED THE WAY PRIME KOBE WAS. THIS IS KNOWN AROUND THE LEAGUE BY ALL THE GM'S, COACHES, PLAYERS, SCOUTS, TOWEL BOYS, ANYONE WITH EYES WHO DOESNT WATCH GAMES BY JUST READING STAT SHEETS, ETC. TO ACT LIKE LEBRON EVER HAD THE OFFENSIVE GAME TO SEE THE SAME COVERAGE AS A PRIME KOBE IS LAUGHABLE.
IF HE WAS SHOOT-FIRST, HE'D SHOOT UNDER 40% FROM THE FIELD, LIKE HE DID IN 2015 FINALS WHEN KYRIE N LOVE WAS OUT.
No, it's a product of them being DIFFERENT PLAYERS.
(I did that in all caps because I'm starting to think you might have some sort of eyesight problem.)
Teams have had to devise their entire defensive plan around Lebron almost since he came into the league. Back in 2007, when GM's were asked which player required teams to make the most adjustments, Shaq was #1, Kobe was #2, and 20-year-old Lebron was already #3 (and already ahead of Kobe in terms of who you would build a franchise around). By 2010, Lebron had surpassed Kobe on the "requires teams to make the most adjustments" measure. And he hadn't even developed his midrange game, post game, or three-point shot to the degree that it became refined in Miami, not to mention the advancements in his bball IQ.
Lebron's biggest rivals - Chicago, Boston, San Antonio, Indiana - all packed the paint, and he beat them. San Antonio had to have one of the greatest defensive centers AND greatest defensive perimeter players thrown at him in 2013 and 2014, and still couldn't really stop him, they only sometimes contained him. Golden State was throwing Iggy AND Dray at him with Bogut backing up the paint, and people were complaining that if any one of those three guys was out or less than 100%, Lebron could dominate unchecked.
No one is ever going to guard a glory-seeking shoot-first shooting guard whose strength is his midrange game the same way they guard a huge pass-seeking forward whose strengths have become his three-point shot and finishing ability.
Yes, if Lebron was shoot first
AND
only played with lineups like:
hospitalized Delly
injured Shump
offensively inept TT
limited Mosgov
AND
only played against teams with a DPOY runner up in the middle (Draymond), a 2nd-team All-Defensive rim protector on the backline (Bogut), and a former All-Defensive team selection manning you up (Iggy), all in the starting lineup.
AND
only played in the Finals.
THEN
Yeah, he might average 40% in years where his shot was off as badly as it was in 2015.
Of course, Kobe has a long history of shooting 40% or worse in MOST of his Finals, even when he had Shaq and Gasol and others to draw defensive attention and his defenders were the "noted" defensive stalwarts Ray Allen, Rip Hamilton, and Reggie Miller.
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ONCE AGAIN, I'LL KEEP IT SIMPLE FOR U, AS U CONTINUE TO JUELZ SANTANA
LEBRON.....HAS......NEVER......SEEN.....THE.....SAME......KINDA......COVERAGE.....AS......PRIME.....KOBE
IF U GUNA DENY THAT, I'M NEVER READING YOUR POSTS AGAIN
Jordan actually had the higher USG% during his peak and throughout his career. Usage rate is near-meaningless in this context anyway as it only measures FG/FT and turnovers (against the rest of the team's) - not passes, assists, how many touches/TOP a player has or how many posessions a player actually uses to generate offense. Basically, even though they were the #1 options on their respective teams, their roles were quite different, the league's style of play was different and the league's pace was different. Not accusing you two of it, but I seen the term usage thrown around a lot on this board and folk don't understand its formula, therefore they misuse it.
Back to the topic - @CarltonJunior is right on the front that Durant will be the closest one to MJ when it's all said and done. I will say this though, LeBron's peak as a scorer is most definitely up there with Jordan's (skillset and impact), otherwise Jordan has a healthy margin on him.
whatever points lebron ends up with, Durant is sure to pass eventually so how can Lebron be the greatest scorer ever, when hes not even the greatest scorer of his era 
I ain't readin all the shyt in this thread but LOL @ people downgrading Bron's achievements based on aesthetics. This ain't figure skating. Points are points no matter how they look when they're scored. Kobe didn't get extra points based on the difficulty of those circus shots he made. FOH. Sure Kobe had more offensive moves than Bron but he was inferior physically and dumber.
Like Bruce Lee said "I fear not the man who has practiced 10000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10000 times."
Efficiency is the only thing that matters, and you can't take that away from the Kang.
Like Bruce Lee said "I fear not the man who has practiced 10000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10000 times."
Efficiency is the only thing that matters, and you can't take that away from the Kang.
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A. That's not confirmed
B. He'll be sharing the scoring role off and on with this rest of that squad for ever if he continues to stay. He might get the opportunity to drop a few 40 pointers now and then, but he didn't go there for massive scoring outbursts, he went there for consistency, consistent open looks, consistent play calls, and typically consistent scoring statlines. I don't see KD making it as an elite scorer past like 31 or 32, which LeBron seems to be on pace for.
And KD isn't part of his generation. I know wouldn't say KD is part of Wade, Melo or Bosh's generations.