Is MAYWEATHER our generation's version of ROCKY MARCIANO?

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I thought i was bout to get this work breh.. This thread is starting to look more and more like that last Floyd thread.

I'm a fan of great fighters but Floyd probably wouldnt even crack my top 10.. I just call them how i see them and your obsession with Floyd and his 'stans' is disgusting. Take his dikk out of your mouth and have some respect for yourself cause you claim you're not involved in the 'stan wars' but your post count in almost every single Mayweather thread says different:


http://www.thecoli.com/threads/is-mayweather-our-generations-version-of-rocky-marciano.136308/
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http://www.thecoli.com/threads/pac-...p-the-talk-and-say-lets-fight-instead.131823/
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http://www.thecoli.com/threads/floyds-hit-dont-get-hit-compared-to-other-all-time-greats.128018/
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http://www.thecoli.com/threads/mayweather-is-44-0-36-yrs-old-never-been-in-a-classic-fight.127572/
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http://www.thecoli.com/threads/mayweather-vs-guerrero-fight-thread.104782/
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Does that mean you're gonna stop showing up in every Mayweather thread trying to go against the grain to get attention? Is so maybe the other 2 or 3 dikkriding lames will follow your lead we'll actually be able to have some productive discussion around here. :ohhh:


Sounds like you're MY #1 stan:ohhh:


Cant believe a grown man would try and pull something like this....kinda scary:scusthov:


Quick shut down of you though and to show why I LIMIT my interactions with you Floyd stans, because you spin FACTS to try and make up things that aint true....just like your idol:ufdup:

You said:


You posted how many POSTS I have in those threads, but you didnt post out of how many posts which would show the truth. I did though:umad:

So, you telling me I only posted a total of 114 times out of 2,761 possible posts.....but my post count says differently:dead:

That's 4 fukkING % BREH!!!:russ:


Get the fukk outta here, you cant even deliver ETHER right......so how you expect to come at me?:what:


I post 4% of the time in a Floyd thread and you talking sideways? :wow:


You proved my point for me stupid:umad:
 

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[quote="SkiHatDaGawd, post: 5047843, member: 54" I find it hilarious that you stan a Mayweather clone to death. LOL @ Floyd ever looking bad vs. Paulie, but thats another story. Do us a favor and break down Mayweather's championship wins like that Manny post. Be fair breh.

I like Adrien Broner because he's an Ohioan doing this thing. I also like Mickey Bey and Shawn Porter too, because they're both from Cleveland. Me and Shawn Porter go to the same barbershop, so we always talking about him in there:manny:

Adrien Broner and Floyd Mayweather are not the same type of fighter 1st off. Secondly, Floyd's better than Adrien Broner.....why would it be an "LOL if Floyd ever looked bad against Malignaggi"?:ohhh:

I would say THIS though. LOL at Lennox Lewis ever having a close fight with a Buster Douglas, but that's another story.

I'm fair to Floyd because I actually believe Floyd's the greatest fighter of our era, but his resume isnt. That's a fact breh. I dont get involved in yall stan wars, because as I see it, Manny has fought the better competition, has the better resume, but Floyd would still beat Manny if they fought because he's the better fighter.

Why is that hard for yall to understand? I dont care about EITHER of em, so I call it as I see it. Once again:

Floyd Mayweather is the Greatest Fighter of his era. He would beat Manny Pacquiao if they ever fought at ANY point in their careers. Manny Pacquiao fought the better fighters and has the stronger resume between the 2.

And also, yall need to stop bringing up Floyd's name in the same sentence with Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson, and Henry Armstrong. It's almost blasphemous[/quote]


I don't agree with most of this and you saying "y'all" and grouping me with those whom you call "stan". I Stan the science and performing in it and teaching it. Not fighters.

But regardless of it all ..............LWO Wolfpack:myman:
 

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I like Adrien Broner because he's an Ohioan doing this thing. I also like Mickey Bey and Shawn Porter too, because they're both from Cleveland. Me and Shawn Porter go to the same barbershop, so we always talking about him in there:manny:

Adrien Broner and Floyd Mayweather are not the same type of fighter 1st off. Secondly, Floyd's better than Adrien Broner.....why would it be an "LOL if Floyd ever looked bad against Malignaggi"?:ohhh:

I would say THIS though. LOL at Lennox Lewis ever having a close fight with a Buster Douglas, but that's another story.

I'm fair to Floyd because I actually believe Floyd's the greatest fighter of our era, but his resume isnt. That's a fact breh. I dont get involved in yall stan wars, because as I see it, Manny has fought the better competition, has the better resume, but Floyd would still beat Manny if they fought because he's the better fighter.

Why is that hard for yall to understand? I dont care about EITHER of em, so I call it as I see it. Once again:

Floyd Mayweather is the Greatest Fighter of his era. He would beat Manny Pacquiao if they ever fought at ANY point in their careers. Manny Pacquiao fought the better fighters and has the stronger resume between the 2.

And also, yall need to stop bringing up Floyd's name in the same sentence with Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson, and Henry Armstrong. It's almost blasphemous


I don't agree with most of this and you saying "y'all" and grouping me with those whom you call "stan". I Stan the science and performing in it and teaching it. Not fighters.

But regardless of it all ..............LWO Wolfpack:myman:[/quote]


#LWO


But :whoa:



I cant respond to this thread again, because it means I'm hating on Floyd since the easiest final boss ever Bowser from the original Mario Bros on NES (aka Final Boss) is watching my post counts in here:dead:
 

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Can anyone tell me why the fight with martinez @150 didn't happen? That's the only fight I can't think of excuses for Floyd.
 

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Sounds like you're MY #1 stan:ohhh:


Cant believe a grown man would try and pull something like this....kinda scary:scusthov:


Quick shut down of you though and to show why I LIMIT my interactions with you Floyd stans, because you spin FACTS to try and make up things that aint true....just like your idol:ufdup:

You said:



You posted how many POSTS I have in those threads, but you didnt post out of how many posts which would show the truth. I did though:umad:

So, you telling me I only posted a total of 114 times out of 2,761 possible posts.....but my post count says differently:dead:

That's 4 fukkING % BREH!!!:russ:


Get the fukk outta here, you cant even deliver ETHER right......so how you expect to come at me?:what:


I post 4% of the time in a Floyd thread and you talking sideways? :wow:


You proved my point for me stupid:umad:


:heh:

I clicked "Who replied" on the first 5 Mayweather threads i saw and you have 114 posts in those threads. I repeat.. 114 posts about Floyd that are just on the first 2 pages of this section alone. You also have the top 3 most replies of any other poster in all of those threads except for 1.

You can try to talk your way around those facts but there's no excuse for that breh. In almost every single post i'v seen you drop in this section you're either crying about Floyd or 'stans'. If all of this doesn't point to an unhealthy obsession then i don't know what does. You've got to better than this. :wow:
 

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Damn breh....you could've at least @me or quoted me if you were going to respond to me.

I'ma just leave this in here with you and let my man Stephen "Breadman" Edwards school you youngsters on Pacquiao's resume, because you Floyd stans only believe what Floyd says which is VERY untrue.

Q. "You seem to be a big Manny Pacquiao fan and I can’t understand why. I do believe he is a special puncher and his foot speed is incredible, so I get the physical part. But his accomplishments are watered down. Most of his opponents are coming off of losses. Most of his fights are at catchweights. Everything seems to be made to order for him. Explain your infatuation with him?"
Bread’s Response: You sound so stupid. Someone told you or you read somewhere that Pacquiao has fought a bunch of catchweight fights so you repeat it. You also must’ve been told that Pacquiao has fought a bunch of guys coming off of losses. So you repeat that too. Because I don’t repeat a bunch of lies that have been told on this man I’m infatuated with him. You are a complete idiot my friend. Only an idiot would repeat a lie as the truth and try to put someone down with it.

Let me explain something to you. I am a Manny fan. The reason being is because of how hard he had it. The first time I saw Manny fight was over 10 years ago and I saw a supreme talent. In about 2009 I saw all of his accomplishments come into question and I researched a few things. This may surprise you.

In my research I found out that Pacquiao is the only 3 division champion in the history of boxing that was the underdog in his first 3 title tries. You may not realize the implications of that statement but let me spell it out for you. In boxing terms that is unheard of. Manny Pacquaio was being FED. Think about this, Adrien Broner just won his 3rd title. He was of similar age to Manny for each of his titles. He was the overwhelming favorite in ALL of his title tries.

Manny fought Chatchai Sasakul who was 33-1 when Manny fought him. Manny was just 19 years old. Sasakul was the deal. So good in fact he gave Yuri Arbachakov his only career loss. Some consider Arbachakov the BEST flyweight of the 90’s. That’s how good he was. The fight between Manny and Sasakul is on youtube. You can see Manny was over his head, he was just a gun and he persevered and scored a dramatic come from behind ko.

In his next title try he fought he fought Lehlo Ledwaba. Dude was a monster and considered to be the best fighter at 122. Manny was like a 6 to 1 underdog. He destroyed him. Manny was just 22 when he did that.
Then in his next title try he fights the 3rd best p4p fighter in the world in Marco Antonio Barerra and he beats him to a pulp. Now Manny is a 3 division champion at 24 years old and he was the underdog in all of his title tries. And he beat the best fighter in the division to win each of those titles.

Then Manny takes on Juan Manuel Marquez to unify in his very next fight. The promoters didn’t give him any stay busy show case fights…….. He gets a draw. Then he engages in his trilogy with Eric Morales. Morales was coming off of a 12 round majority decision loss in the fight of the year to Barrera. Pacquiao haters act like Morales was kod in 1 round and then fought Pacquiao. There was nothing wrong with that fight. Did I add it was at 130, Pacquiao was yet moving up again. Morales has just had big HBO fights with Marcos Maidana and Danny Garcia recently but Pac gets flack for fighting him at 130lbs 8 years ago. Unbelievable.

He settles things with Morales, fights Barrera in a rematch and then goes for his 4th title vs an all time great in Marquez. So in 4 title tries the one time he is the favorite is against the best fighter he has faced. Next he fights David Diaz in his 5th title try a fight in which Pacquiao got criticized. But Diaz was33-1 and he had just beat Morales. It was Pacquiao’s first fight at 135. Next he gets the Oscar call.

I am going to ask you why would Oscar want to make Manny look good. Manny made himself look good by fighting the perfect fight against a man that was 3 divisions bigger and 6 inches taller. He was being fed again, he just didn’t cooperate.

Next he goes for his 6th title try against Ricky Hatton. He almost kills Hatton. So let’s keep track in 6 title tries he was the underdog 3x. He also fought the best fighter in the division 5 out of 6 times, the only time he didn’t was against David Diaz. Next he fights Miguel Cotto at a catchweight of 145lbs and destroys him. That’s his 7th title and the 6th time he fought the best guy in the division for the title. Remember Floyd was just coming out of retirement at this time.

Despite what people try to say. Oscar, Hatton and Cotto were all coming off of wins not losses. Oscar had just beat Steve Forbes, Hatton had just beat Paulie Malignaggi. In fact he stopped him in 2008 when Adrien Broner couldn’t last month. And Cotto had just beat Michael Jennings and Joshua Clottey. So up until that point only Morales was coming off of a loss and he’s the only fighter to beat Manny in that decade, go figure smart guy.

Next up we have Joshua Clottey who was coming off of a split decision loss. Some people say he beat Cotto but if those same people don’t like Pacman they say Clottey was coming off of a loss. Mike Alvarado will be fighting Ruslan Provodnikov coming off of one of those same losses. There is nothing wrong with that.

Then Pac fights Margarito at a stupid catchweight but I don’t believe it benefited him. Margarito was never more than a BIG welter to me, so they let him come in at 150 and he rehydrated up to 165. He took away Pac’s prime in that fight. Then Pac picked on a shot Shane Mosley. I have no problem admitting that. Next he fights undefeated Tim Bradley sandwiched by two Marquez fights. Now he’s fighting Brandon Rios coming off of a razor close loss in his comeback fight after being violently kod.

What favors has this man been done? Seriously. I’m telling you straight up there is no way I would let my fighters fight the kind of killers that Pacquiao has, multiple times, giving up that kind of experience,weight and height. The one guy who gave him trouble, they made him fight 4x…. He was robbed against Bradley….. He gave up so much size to Margarito that he laid in bed for 3 days AFTER the fight.I can go on and on.
Tell me another modern fighter that has had to go through that. And I only named the BIG fights and title wins. People like to repeat lies and nonsense about this guy. But the truth is he has had it harder than any fighter in recent history. You guys talk about catchweights but not so much anymore. I wonder why. I won’t bring up Floyd because I am actually a big fan of his also. Yes guys, you can be a Pacman and Moneyman fan at the same time. But Floyd hasn’t had it nearly as rough as PAcquiao, especially coming up.

But let’s get back to catchweights. Pacquiao asked for 2 catchweights, Cotto and Margarito. Marquez asked for two also. Both times 144 against Pacquiao and Mayweather and no one speaks a word about it. Cotto who was supposedly opposed to catchweights, asked for one against Margarito. Somebody hit up Margarito’s trainer on twitter and he will tell you the deal. They settled at an asinine 153 but because Margarito was a cheater nobody cared.

Paul Williams fought Sergio Martinez at 157 and no one spoke a word about it. The great Bernard Hopkins fought Kelly Pavlik and Winky Wright at 170lbs and we don’t talk about it. Now the best fighter in the world is fighting Saul Alvarez at 152lbs but yet Manny PAcquiao is the Catchweight King. I only named recent big fights. Go figure again…. #TRUTH

I am a fan of Manny’s but I am more of a TRUTH ADVOCATE. The guy gets a bad rap but no one can give me a valid reason why. What special tailor made fighters that Manny has benefited from? He has fought the for the most part the best available guys, of all colors, styles, height and weights. I’m curious to know about this special matchmaking. Before Manny and Floyd had their public feud nobody talked bad about him. All I’m saying is have your own mind. Manny Pacquiao is the most accomplished fighter of this generation and out of all of the elite fighters of the past 15 years he has had by far the roughest road up.


So......um, yeah:ufdup:

I dont go back and forth with Floyd Stans, because you guys are at a disadvantage. Most of you know nothing about boxing except Floyd, so it's not equal knowledge that we're dealing with here:yeshrug:


I'll let yall get back to your discussions though, I didnt wanna come through and kick down the buildings, but hey, shyt happens:manny:




#BandCamp



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Wow. Impressive. Thorough. And most importantly true.



He's not a "writer".......he's a boxing trainer:ufdup:


If you watched boxing, you would've seen him in the corner of his UNDEFEATED fighter Julian Williams on Showtime a few weeks back or his other fighter Steve Chambers.


He's a Pacquiao dikk rider, because he posted facts?:dead:


This was a perfect quote he said that describes Floyd stans to a T:


That's exactly what yall do with everything Mayweather says.....yall parrot it and repeat it back to yourselves till you FORCE yourself to believe it's true:snoop:

Everything that Bread said was true.....you gotta deal with it:manny:

I must concur- it was the truth.
 

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:childplease: You might want to wait for the other person to respond before you start doing victory laps. Remove your daps from his post and put them on mine where they rightfully belong. Also read the last part of my post because it relates to the 2 of you specifically.

After seeing your retort, I still think he made your soul burn slow. And asking for daps should be beneath you. But me being a fan of Pacquiao and favoring him to beat Mayweather doesnt make me anymore of a Pac stan than you being a fan of Mayweather and favoring him to beat Pac makes you a Floyd stan. Again, I CREATED THIS THREAD. And it was to compare Mayweather and Marciano. I wasnt bashing either man, and everybody else brought Pacquiao into this. I wanted to merely present the comparison and hear some unbiased but logical opinions on it. And although im a Mayweather fan and have all his fights, I feel his desire to stay unbeaten and penchant to pursue $ before glory has robbed him of being as great as I think he is. Im a stan of BOXING.
 
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Damn breh....you could've at least @me or quoted me if you were going to respond to me.

I'ma just leave this in here with you and let my man Stephen "Breadman" Edwards school you youngsters on Pacquiao's resume, because you Floyd stans only believe what Floyd says which is VERY untrue.

Q. "You seem to be a big Manny Pacquiao fan and I can’t understand why. I do believe he is a special puncher and his foot speed is incredible, so I get the physical part. But his accomplishments are watered down. Most of his opponents are coming off of losses. Most of his fights are at catchweights. Everything seems to be made to order for him. Explain your infatuation with him?"
Bread’s Response: You sound so stupid. Someone told you or you read somewhere that Pacquiao has fought a bunch of catchweight fights so you repeat it. You also must’ve been told that Pacquiao has fought a bunch of guys coming off of losses. So you repeat that too. Because I don’t repeat a bunch of lies that have been told on this man I’m infatuated with him. You are a complete idiot my friend. Only an idiot would repeat a lie as the truth and try to put someone down with it.

Let me explain something to you. I am a Manny fan. The reason being is because of how hard he had it. The first time I saw Manny fight was over 10 years ago and I saw a supreme talent. In about 2009 I saw all of his accomplishments come into question and I researched a few things. This may surprise you.

In my research I found out that Pacquiao is the only 3 division champion in the history of boxing that was the underdog in his first 3 title tries. You may not realize the implications of that statement but let me spell it out for you. In boxing terms that is unheard of. Manny Pacquaio was being FED. Think about this, Adrien Broner just won his 3rd title. He was of similar age to Manny for each of his titles. He was the overwhelming favorite in ALL of his title tries.

Manny fought Chatchai Sasakul who was 33-1 when Manny fought him. Manny was just 19 years old. Sasakul was the deal. So good in fact he gave Yuri Arbachakov his only career loss. Some consider Arbachakov the BEST flyweight of the 90’s. That’s how good he was. The fight between Manny and Sasakul is on youtube. You can see Manny was over his head, he was just a gun and he persevered and scored a dramatic come from behind ko.

Of course he fails to mention Sasakul one good win against Yuri, Yuri was coming off over a year layoff that forced him to vaccate his belt for because of serious hand injuries and he retired immediatley after the fight

In his next title try he fought he fought Lehlo Ledwaba. Dude was a monster and considered to be the best fighter at 122. Manny was like a 6 to 1 underdog. He destroyed him. Manny was just 22 when he did that.

This is almost laughable he was the 3rd or 4th ranked Jr featherweight at the time and his previous 2 title denfenses were against bum ass Barotilllo and Conteras

Then in his next title try he fights the 3rd best p4p fighter in the world in Marco Antonio Barerra and he beats him to a pulp. Now Manny is a 3 division champion at 24 years old and he was the underdog in all of his title tries. And he beat the best fighter in the division to win each of those titles.


Then Manny takes on Juan Manuel Marquez to unify in his very next fight. The promoters didn’t give him any stay busy show case fights…….. He gets a draw. Then he engages in his trilogy with Eric Morales. Morales was coming off of a 12 round majority decision loss in the fight of the year to Barrera. Pacquiao haters act like Morales was kod in 1 round and then fought Pacquiao. There was nothing wrong with that fight. Did I add it was at 130, Pacquiao was yet moving up again. Morales has just had big HBO fights with Marcos Maidana and Danny Garcia recently but Pac gets flack for fighting him at 130lbs 8 years ago. Unbelievable.

He can make all the excuses he wants but this is an example of fighting a guy coming off a loss not 1 but 2 times to Barrera and Raheem now both are good fighters and there is no shame in Morales losing to them and I cant totally discredit manny for this because Morales was still a good fighter but call a spade a spade

He settles things with Morales, fights Barrera in a rematch and then goes for his 4th title vs an all time great in Marquez. So in 4 title tries the one time he is the favorite is against the best fighter he has faced. Next he fights David Diaz in his 5th title try a fight in which Pacquiao got criticized. But Diaz was33-1 and he had just beat Morales. It was Pacquiao’s first fight at 135. Next he gets the Oscar call.

Im of the opinion that he lost this fight to Marquez but it was close so whatever and David Diaz is garbage he was gifted a win against Morales and if you wanna include him as a name on Manny record then there is no way you can not put Phillip Ndou on Floyds who was to me in fact above Diaz but that just my opinion

I am going to ask you why would Oscar want to make Manny look good. Manny made himself look good by fighting the perfect fight against a man that was 3 divisions bigger and 6 inches taller. He was being fed again, he just didn’t cooperate.

I dont know maybe because Oscar was getting options on several of Manny's future fights maybe ?

Next he goes for his 6th title try against Ricky Hatton. He almost kills Hatton. So let’s keep track in 6 title tries he was the underdog 3x. He also fought the best fighter in the division 5 out of 6 times, the only time he didn’t was against David Diaz.

Hatton was a shell of himself after Floyd put him through a boxing clinic

Next he fights Miguel Cotto at a catchweight of 145lbs and destroys him. That’s his 7th title and the 6th time he fought the best guy in the division for the title. Remember Floyd was just coming out of retirement at this time.

Why did he have to fight Cotto at 145 pound catchweight when he weighed in at 148 on fight night against Hatton?

Despite what people try to say. Oscar, Hatton and Cotto were all coming off of wins not losses. Oscar had just beat Steve Forbes, Hatton had just beat Paulie Malignaggi. In fact he stopped him in 2008 when Adrien Broner couldn’t last month. And Cotto had just beat Michael Jennings and Joshua Clottey. So up until that point only Morales was coming off of a loss and he’s the only fighter to beat Manny in that decade, go figure smart guy.
ODH beat Steve Forbes :heh: the same Steve Forbes who lost on the damn Contender GTFO
Hatton beat Pauli and Lazcano fair enough but he still wasnt the same fighter after the Floyd fight and that cant be contested and Cotto according to you and what this dumb motherfukka in the next damn paragraph insinuates was a loss to Clottey thus he would have lost 2-3 fights going into the manny fight

Next up we have Joshua Clottey who was coming off of a split decision loss. Some people say he beat Cotto but if those same people don’t like Pacman they say Clottey was coming off of a loss. Mike Alvarado will be fighting Ruslan Provodnikov coming off of one of those same losses. There is nothing wrong with that.

Call me a hater if you want but im pretty sure Bob Arum slid Clottey some extra money to just stand there with his guard up for 12 rounds like a human punching bag

\Then Pac fights Margarito at a stupid catchweight but I don’t believe it benefited him. Margarito was never more than a BIG welter to me, so they let him come in at 150 and he rehydrated up to 165. He took away Pac’s prime in that fight. Then Pac picked on a shot Shane Mosley. I have no problem admitting that. Next he fights undefeated Tim Bradley sandwiched by two Marquez fights. Now he’s fighting Brandon Rios coming off of a razor close loss in his comeback fight after being violently kod.

What favors has this man been done? Seriously. I’m telling you straight up there is no way I would let my fighters fight the kind of killers that Pacquiao has, multiple times, giving up that kind of experience,weight and height. The one guy who gave him trouble, they made him fight 4x…. He was robbed against Bradley…..

Nobody made him fight JMM 4 times he did it because he knew in his heart of hearts Juan beat him each time. Robbed against Bradley... not likely ! More like this moron was persuaded by the disgusting and unproffessional slurp fest from jim Lampley that Manny was doing anything besides getting completely flummoxed by Bradleys defence. Bradley blocked or outright avoided a lot of Mannys punches and the 7-5 score was about right






So......um, yeah:ufdup:

I dont go back and forth with Floyd Stans, because you guys are at a disadvantage. Most of you know nothing about boxing except Floyd, so it's not equal knowledge that we're dealing with here:yeshrug:


I'll let yall get back to your discussions though, I didnt wanna come through and kick down the buildings, but hey, shyt happens:manny:




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Breh, I'm not even gonna go back and forth with you on this, cause like I said to Bowser aka Final Boss, I dont like to only really get involved in Manny/Floyd wars. By you even breaking down each part you found "not true", in your opinion of course,.....I salute you:salute:

That's something I would do to something I dont agree with:heh:

We can be on different sides of the argument, but at least your posts show that you have knowledge of the science breh. Good shyt.:shake:
 

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After seeing your retort, I still think he made your soul burn slow. And asking for daps should be beneath you. But me being a fan of Pacquiao and favoring him to beat Mayweather doesnt make me anymore of a Pac stan than you being a fan of Mayweather and favoring him to beat Pac makes you a Floyd stan. Again, I CREATED THIS THREAD. And it was to compare Mayweather and Marciano. I wasnt bashing either man, and everybody else brought Pacquiao into this. I wanted to merely present the comparison and hear some unbiased but logical opinions on it. And although im a Mayweather fan and have all his fights, I feel his desire to stay unbeaten and penchant to pursue $ before glory has robbed him of being as great as I think he is. Im a stan of BOXING.


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