Is MAYWEATHER our generation's version of ROCKY MARCIANO?

[Newzz]

In other words you got sonned and now you're trying to deflect attention away from the fact that you can't stand behind your argument. Same shyt that happened in that last Floyd thread when you came in cheerleading for Manny and i posted circles around you to the point that you said fukk it threw in the towel. Stick to the topic or find a thread that you can actually keep up with.

I only responded to you TWICE.....and neither of your responses were anything more than more Floyd stanning from you, as normal Floyd stans cannot argue about boxing objectively.

Secondly, in order to pass some time here in the office.....what you said in your original post was FALSE which is why I just skipped over it just to tell you: For no reason, dont ever compare Ali and Floyd.

I guess I'll break you down though for kicks

These dudes claiming Floyd is ducking fighters despite having probably the most stacked resume of his era are the same ones who would've called Leonard soft in the 80's

Why would we? Again here you go comparing Floyd's "cherry picked" resume with someone who actually FOUGHT HOFers and beat them while they were IN their primes

SRL fought Duran 3x, Thomas Hearns 2x, and Marvin Hagler all in the 80s....Floyd doesnt even have a top 6 resume of current fighters

Oscar De La Hoya, Manny Pacquiao, Juan Manuel Marquez, Zab Judah, Bernard Hopkins, and Shane Mosley, all off the top of my head have better resumes than Floyd Mayweather.

It's in some peoples nature to tear down those who reach the top of their respective fields. If that's not possible then they'll manufacture a reason to cheapen their accomplishments.

Saying Floyd beat DLH, Mosley, Cotto (the 3 biggest names on his resume) when they were out of their primes is "manufacturing a reason to cheapen his accomplishment"

It's a FACT

Fact #1
Oscar De La Hoya was 34 years old and 2-2 in his last 4 fights before he fought Floyd Mayweather. After losing to Floyd Mayweather, he went 1-1 in his next 2 fights before retiring at 35. He ended his career 3-4 (including the loss to Floyd).

Fact #2
Shane Mosley was 38 years old and washed up when he fought Floyd Mayweather. Dude lost back to back fights against Vernon Forest (rip), had a NC with Raul Marquez due to headbutts, Roided himself up to beat Oscar De La Hoya in a rematch, and then lost back to back fights against Winky Wright. Over 6 fights, he lost 4 of em, cheated to get the only win he got, and had a NC in the other.

Then, he beats David fukking Estrada, Jose Luis Cruz ( ), a washed up Fernando Vargas twice, and a B fighter in Luis Collazo before losing again to Miguel Cotto and struggling to a last second KO victory over a washed up Ricardo Mayorga THEN, he beats Antonio Margarito without the wraps (who wasnt the same fighter without the wraps obviously) and Floyd stans say Mosley's no longer washed up

After losing to Mayweather, 4 months later he fights to a fukking draw with SERGIO MORA of all people, loses to Pacquiao, loses to Alvarez, and finally beats weak ass Cano to get back in the win column after 4 years. Mosley's last 8 fights, 3-4-1 (including the loss to Floyd)

Fact #3
Miguel Cotto was battered to near death and was never the same after his fights against Manny Pacquiao and Antonio Margarito. No matter how many times Floyd said "Cotto is an undefeated fighter in my eyes", his body tells a different story. Floyd fights him, wins a closer than expected decision, then 7 months later....Austin Trout beats Cotto easier tha Floyd did. Cotto's washed up, and Pac and Margs did that to him. Hell, Cotto probably should've lost that fight against Joshua Clottey to be real. The Cotto that Floyd fought was not the same one that Zab Judah or Shane Mosley fought. Cotto's last 9 fights, he's 5-4 with a controversial victory over Clottey, he beat Michael Jennings, a Yuri Foreman who blew his knee out in the fight , a washed up Mayorga, and a broken eye socket Margarito (thanks to Pac). Not exactly a great run of great fights for him, because he's done being a great fighter.

I know you're usually a step behind in these debates but even you should've been able to understand that without me having to dumb it down and re-explain it to you on a 3rd grade level

I'm usually a step behind, because I've already lapped you Floyd stans.

"Look behind you, I'm about to lap you twice!" - Jay-Z


I'll sit here and wait for your response.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Hatton didn't want the fight at 140 when offered....Floyd fights DLH at 154 then Hatton at 147...y'all really expected Floyd to drop down to 140 cuz now Ricky was ready??

What other fighter gets held to those standards??

According to who?? Floydie??

 

[HamAndEgger]

I only responded to you TWICE.....and neither of your responses were anything more than more Floyd stanning from you, as normal Floyd stans cannot argue about boxing objectively.

Secondly, in order to pass some time here in the office.....what you said in your original post was FALSE which is why I just skipped over it just to tell you: For no reason, dont ever compare Ali and Floyd.

I guess I'll break you down though for kicks



Why would we? Again here you go comparing Floyd's "cherry picked" resume with someone who actually FOUGHT HOFers and beat them while they were IN their primes

SRL fought Duran 3x, Thomas Hearns 2x, and Marvin Hagler all in the 80s....Floyd doesnt even have a top 6 resume of current fighters

Oscar De La Hoya, Manny Pacquiao, Juan Manuel Marquez, Zab Judah, Bernard Hopkins, and Shane Mosley, all off the top of my head have better resumes than Floyd Mayweather.



Saying Floyd beat DLH, Mosley, Cotto (the 3 biggest names on his resume) when they were out of their primes is "manufacturing a reason to cheapen his accomplishment"

It's a FACT

Fact #1
Oscar De La Hoya was 34 years old and 2-2 in his last 4 fights before he fought Floyd Mayweather. After losing to Floyd Mayweather, he went 1-1 in his next 2 fights before retiring at 35. He ended his career 3-4 (including the loss to Floyd).

Fact #2
Shane Mosley was 38 years old and washed up when he fought Floyd Mayweather. Dude lost back to back fights against Vernon Forest (rip), had a NC with Raul Marquez due to headbutts, Roided himself up to beat Oscar De La Hoya in a rematch, and then lost back to back fights against Winky Wright. Over 6 fights, he lost 4 of em, cheated to get the only win he got, and had a NC in the other.

Then, he beats David fukking Estrada, Jose Luis Cruz ( ), a washed up Fernando Vargas twice, and a B fighter in Luis Collazo before losing again to Miguel Cotto and struggling to a last second KO victory over a washed up Ricardo Mayorga THEN, he beats Antonio Margarito without the wraps (who wasnt the same fighter without the wraps obviously) and Floyd stans say Mosley's no longer washed up

After losing to Mayweather, 4 months later he fights to a fukking draw with SERGIO MORA of all people, loses to Pacquiao, loses to Alvarez, and finally beats weak ass Cano to get back in the win column after 4 years. Mosley's last 8 fights, 3-4-1 (including the loss to Floyd)

Fact #3
Miguel Cotto was battered to near death and was never the same after his fights against Manny Pacquiao and Antonio Margarito. No matter how many times Floyd said "Cotto is an undefeated fighter in my eyes", his body tells a different story. Floyd fights him, wins a closer than expected decision, then 7 months later....Austin Trout beats Cotto easier tha Floyd did. Cotto's washed up, and Pac and Margs did that to him. Hell, Cotto probably should've lost that fight against Joshua Clottey to be real. The Cotto that Floyd fought was not the same one that Zab Judah or Shane Mosley fought. Cotto's last 9 fights, he's 5-4 with a controversial victory over Clottey, he beat Michael Jennings, a Yuri Foreman who blew his knee out in the fight , a washed up Mayorga, and a broken eye socket Margarito (thanks to Pac). Not exactly a great run of great fights for him, because he's done being a great fighter.



I'm usually a step behind, because I've already lapped you Floyd stans.

"Look behind you, I'm about to lap you twice!" - Jay-Z


I'll sit here and wait for your response.

I went more of the diplomatic route, but

 

[Mr. Leonidas]

I only responded to you TWICE.....and neither of your responses were anything more than more Floyd stanning from you, as normal Floyd stans cannot argue about boxing objectively.

Secondly, in order to pass some time here in the office.....what you said in your original post was FALSE which is why I just skipped over it just to tell you: For no reason, dont ever compare Ali and Floyd.

I guess I'll break you down though for kicks



Why would we? Again here you go comparing Floyd's "cherry picked" resume with someone who actually FOUGHT HOFers and beat them while they were IN their primes

SRL fought Duran 3x, Thomas Hearns 2x, and Marvin Hagler all in the 80s....Floyd doesnt even have a top 6 resume of current fighters

Oscar De La Hoya, Manny Pacquiao, Juan Manuel Marquez, Zab Judah, Bernard Hopkins, and Shane Mosley, all off the top of my head have better resumes than Floyd Mayweather.



Saying Floyd beat DLH, Mosley, Cotto (the 3 biggest names on his resume) when they were out of their primes is "manufacturing a reason to cheapen his accomplishment"

It's a FACT

Fact #1
Oscar De La Hoya was 34 years old and 2-2 in his last 4 fights before he fought Floyd Mayweather. After losing to Floyd Mayweather, he went 1-1 in his next 2 fights before retiring at 35. He ended his career 3-4 (including the loss to Floyd).

Fact #2
Shane Mosley was 38 years old and washed up when he fought Floyd Mayweather. Dude lost back to back fights against Vernon Forest (rip), had a NC with Raul Marquez due to headbutts, Roided himself up to beat Oscar De La Hoya in a rematch, and then lost back to back fights against Winky Wright. Over 6 fights, he lost 4 of em, cheated to get the only win he got, and had a NC in the other.

Then, he beats David fukking Estrada, Jose Luis Cruz ( ), a washed up Fernando Vargas twice, and a B fighter in Luis Collazo before losing again to Miguel Cotto and struggling to a last second KO victory over a washed up Ricardo Mayorga THEN, he beats Antonio Margarito without the wraps (who wasnt the same fighter without the wraps obviously) and Floyd stans say Mosley's no longer washed up

After losing to Mayweather, 4 months later he fights to a fukking draw with SERGIO MORA of all people, loses to Pacquiao, loses to Alvarez, and finally beats weak ass Cano to get back in the win column after 4 years. Mosley's last 8 fights, 3-4-1 (including the loss to Floyd)

Fact #3
Miguel Cotto was battered to near death and was never the same after his fights against Manny Pacquiao and Antonio Margarito. No matter how many times Floyd said "Cotto is an undefeated fighter in my eyes", his body tells a different story. Floyd fights him, wins a closer than expected decision, then 7 months later....Austin Trout beats Cotto easier tha Floyd did. Cotto's washed up, and Pac and Margs did that to him. Hell, Cotto probably should've lost that fight against Joshua Clottey to be real. The Cotto that Floyd fought was not the same one that Zab Judah or Shane Mosley fought. Cotto's last 9 fights, he's 5-4 with a controversial victory over Clottey, he beat Michael Jennings, a Yuri Foreman who blew his knee out in the fight , a washed up Mayorga, and a broken eye socket Margarito (thanks to Pac). Not exactly a great run of great fights for him, because he's done being a great fighter.



I'm usually a step behind, because I've already lapped you Floyd stans.

"Look behind you, I'm about to lap you twice!" - Jay-Z


I'll sit here and wait for your response.

Whewwww that's that ether! The shyt to make your soul burn sloooooowww. Final Boss?! Naw homey, more like a low level sub boss in Level 1!

 

[patscorpio]

one good thing about these floyd threads is that it shows who watches the sport and who doesnt

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

According to who?? Floydie??

Hatton Speaks: Asked why he turned down a Mayweather Fight Twice this year

http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Chee/Chee0504c06.htm

Its common knowledge you dumb bytch

Coming from the guy who hangs onto erry word Arum says as gospel...tell me again how many Chinese goin buy the ppv i need a good laugh

 

[Black_Jesus]

Hatton Speaks: Asked why he turned down a Mayweather Fight Twice this year

http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Chee/Chee0504c06.htm

Its common knowledge you dumb bytch

Coming from the guy who hangs onto erry word Arum says as gospel...tell me again how many Chinese goin buy the ppv i need a good laugh
ce this year

Floydie refused to go to the UK to fight Hatton at 140 since that was what he said he would do before he devoloped his Xylocaine habit illegal in 49 states

where does it say Hatton wanted no parts at 140 ??

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Floydie refused to go to the UK to fight Hatton at 140 since that was what he said he would do before he devoloped his Xylocaine habit illegal in 49 states

where does it say Hatton wanted no parts at 140 ??

Xylocaine you trying to me with Xylocaine??


"I think you need to know what direction you’re going in before you can make a decision like on a fight with Mayweather"

In the damn article i provided this nikka Ricky provided 8876546 reasons why the fight didnt happen...problems with promotion, HBO, his dad, tea N crumpets

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

Napiao has a better resume than Floyd now ?


Napiao fights

The bytch ass cheater after he gets caught with plaster in his gloves and his subsequently dominated by Mosley

Cotto who got his face bashed in with bricks and according to you lost 2 of his previous 3 (clottey and the scum bag cheater) and had to fight at a catchweight even though in Manny's previous bout against Hatton he weighed in at 148 on fight night

Shane Mosley who Arum and Roach feared putting him in the ring with untill after Floyd crushed that nikkas soul

Joshua Clottey who just stood there with his guard up for 12 fukking rounds

ODH not only after his prime but weight drained and not allowed to rehydrate as well as after Floyd beat his ass

Hatton again after Floyd beat his ass and stole his fukking soul

Morales coming off a loss to Barrera and again after he loses to Raheem

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

Floydie refused to go to the UK to fight Hatton at 140 since that was what he said he would do before he devoloped his Xylocaine habit illegal in 49 states

where does it say Hatton wanted no parts at 140 ??

Again Xylocain is not on any banned substance lists nor is it illegal in any state i dont know how many times your gonna keep making shyt up but your just making yourself look stupid.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Napiao has a better resume than Floyd now ?


Napiao fights

The bytch ass cheater after he gets caught with plaster in his gloves and his subsequently dominated by Mosley

Cotto who got his face bashed in with bricks and according to you lost 2 of his previous 3 (clottey and the scum bag cheater) and had to fight at a catchweight even though in Manny's previous bout against Hatton he weighed in at 148 on fight night

Shane Mosley who Arum and Roach feared putting him in the ring with untill after Floyd crushed that nikkas soul

Joshua Clottey who just stood there with his guard up for 12 fukking rounds

ODH not only after his prime but weight drained and not allowed to rehydrate as well as after Floyd beat his ass

Hatton again after Floyd beat his ass and stole his fukking soul

Morales coming off a loss to Barrera and again after he loses to Raheem

Isn't it pretty sad that even when you word it this way, its still a much better resume than Floydie ?

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

Isn't pretty sad that even when you word it this was, its still a much better resume than Floydie

Sure it is

 

[krackdagawd]

one good thing about these floyd threads is that it shows who watches the sport and who doesnt

Yup I don't even bother posting outside the boxing thread for that reason.

 

[Newzz]

Napiao has a better resume than Floyd now ?


Napiao fights

The bytch ass cheater after he gets caught with plaster in his gloves and his subsequently dominated by Mosley

Cotto who got his face bashed in with bricks and according to you lost 2 of his previous 3 (clottey and the scum bag cheater) and had to fight at a catchweight even though in Manny's previous bout against Hatton he weighed in at 148 on fight night

Shane Mosley who Arum and Roach feared putting him in the ring with untill after Floyd crushed that nikkas soul

Joshua Clottey who just stood there with his guard up for 12 fukking rounds

ODH not only after his prime but weight drained and not allowed to rehydrate as well as after Floyd beat his ass

Hatton again after Floyd beat his ass and stole his fukking soul

Morales coming off a loss to Barrera and again after he loses to Raheem

Damn breh....you could've at least @me or quoted me if you were going to respond to me.

I'ma just leave this in here with you and let my man Stephen "Breadman" Edwards school you youngsters on Pacquiao's resume, because you Floyd stans only believe what Floyd says which is VERY untrue.

Q. "You seem to be a big Manny Pacquiao fan and I can’t understand why. I do believe he is a special puncher and his foot speed is incredible, so I get the physical part. But his accomplishments are watered down. Most of his opponents are coming off of losses. Most of his fights are at catchweights. Everything seems to be made to order for him. Explain your infatuation with him?"
Bread’s Response: You sound so stupid. Someone told you or you read somewhere that Pacquiao has fought a bunch of catchweight fights so you repeat it. You also must’ve been told that Pacquiao has fought a bunch of guys coming off of losses. So you repeat that too. Because I don’t repeat a bunch of lies that have been told on this man I’m infatuated with him. You are a complete idiot my friend. Only an idiot would repeat a lie as the truth and try to put someone down with it.

Let me explain something to you. I am a Manny fan. The reason being is because of how hard he had it. The first time I saw Manny fight was over 10 years ago and I saw a supreme talent. In about 2009 I saw all of his accomplishments come into question and I researched a few things. This may surprise you.

In my research I found out that Pacquiao is the only 3 division champion in the history of boxing that was the underdog in his first 3 title tries. You may not realize the implications of that statement but let me spell it out for you. In boxing terms that is unheard of. Manny Pacquaio was being FED. Think about this, Adrien Broner just won his 3rd title. He was of similar age to Manny for each of his titles. He was the overwhelming favorite in ALL of his title tries.

Manny fought Chatchai Sasakul who was 33-1 when Manny fought him. Manny was just 19 years old. Sasakul was the deal. So good in fact he gave Yuri Arbachakov his only career loss. Some consider Arbachakov the BEST flyweight of the 90’s. That’s how good he was. The fight between Manny and Sasakul is on youtube. You can see Manny was over his head, he was just a gun and he persevered and scored a dramatic come from behind ko.

In his next title try he fought he fought Lehlo Ledwaba. Dude was a monster and considered to be the best fighter at 122. Manny was like a 6 to 1 underdog. He destroyed him. Manny was just 22 when he did that.
Then in his next title try he fights the 3rd best p4p fighter in the world in Marco Antonio Barerra and he beats him to a pulp. Now Manny is a 3 division champion at 24 years old and he was the underdog in all of his title tries. And he beat the best fighter in the division to win each of those titles.

Then Manny takes on Juan Manuel Marquez to unify in his very next fight. The promoters didn’t give him any stay busy show case fights…….. He gets a draw. Then he engages in his trilogy with Eric Morales. Morales was coming off of a 12 round majority decision loss in the fight of the year to Barrera. Pacquiao haters act like Morales was kod in 1 round and then fought Pacquiao. There was nothing wrong with that fight. Did I add it was at 130, Pacquiao was yet moving up again. Morales has just had big HBO fights with Marcos Maidana and Danny Garcia recently but Pac gets flack for fighting him at 130lbs 8 years ago. Unbelievable.

He settles things with Morales, fights Barrera in a rematch and then goes for his 4th title vs an all time great in Marquez. So in 4 title tries the one time he is the favorite is against the best fighter he has faced. Next he fights David Diaz in his 5th title try a fight in which Pacquiao got criticized. But Diaz was33-1 and he had just beat Morales. It was Pacquiao’s first fight at 135. Next he gets the Oscar call.

I am going to ask you why would Oscar want to make Manny look good. Manny made himself look good by fighting the perfect fight against a man that was 3 divisions bigger and 6 inches taller. He was being fed again, he just didn’t cooperate.

Next he goes for his 6th title try against Ricky Hatton. He almost kills Hatton. So let’s keep track in 6 title tries he was the underdog 3x. He also fought the best fighter in the division 5 out of 6 times, the only time he didn’t was against David Diaz. Next he fights Miguel Cotto at a catchweight of 145lbs and destroys him. That’s his 7th title and the 6th time he fought the best guy in the division for the title. Remember Floyd was just coming out of retirement at this time.

Despite what people try to say. Oscar, Hatton and Cotto were all coming off of wins not losses. Oscar had just beat Steve Forbes, Hatton had just beat Paulie Malignaggi. In fact he stopped him in 2008 when Adrien Broner couldn’t last month. And Cotto had just beat Michael Jennings and Joshua Clottey. So up until that point only Morales was coming off of a loss and he’s the only fighter to beat Manny in that decade, go figure smart guy.

Next up we have Joshua Clottey who was coming off of a split decision loss. Some people say he beat Cotto but if those same people don’t like Pacman they say Clottey was coming off of a loss. Mike Alvarado will be fighting Ruslan Provodnikov coming off of one of those same losses. There is nothing wrong with that.

Then Pac fights Margarito at a stupid catchweight but I don’t believe it benefited him. Margarito was never more than a BIG welter to me, so they let him come in at 150 and he rehydrated up to 165. He took away Pac’s prime in that fight. Then Pac picked on a shot Shane Mosley. I have no problem admitting that. Next he fights undefeated Tim Bradley sandwiched by two Marquez fights. Now he’s fighting Brandon Rios coming off of a razor close loss in his comeback fight after being violently kod.

What favors has this man been done? Seriously. I’m telling you straight up there is no way I would let my fighters fight the kind of killers that Pacquiao has, multiple times, giving up that kind of experience,weight and height. The one guy who gave him trouble, they made him fight 4x…. He was robbed against Bradley….. He gave up so much size to Margarito that he laid in bed for 3 days AFTER the fight.I can go on and on.
Tell me another modern fighter that has had to go through that. And I only named the BIG fights and title wins. People like to repeat lies and nonsense about this guy. But the truth is he has had it harder than any fighter in recent history. You guys talk about catchweights but not so much anymore. I wonder why. I won’t bring up Floyd because I am actually a big fan of his also. Yes guys, you can be a Pacman and Moneyman fan at the same time. But Floyd hasn’t had it nearly as rough as PAcquiao, especially coming up.

But let’s get back to catchweights. Pacquiao asked for 2 catchweights, Cotto and Margarito. Marquez asked for two also. Both times 144 against Pacquiao and Mayweather and no one speaks a word about it. Cotto who was supposedly opposed to catchweights, asked for one against Margarito. Somebody hit up Margarito’s trainer on twitter and he will tell you the deal. They settled at an asinine 153 but because Margarito was a cheater nobody cared.

Paul Williams fought Sergio Martinez at 157 and no one spoke a word about it. The great Bernard Hopkins fought Kelly Pavlik and Winky Wright at 170lbs and we don’t talk about it. Now the best fighter in the world is fighting Saul Alvarez at 152lbs but yet Manny PAcquiao is the Catchweight King. I only named recent big fights. Go figure again…. #TRUTH

I am a fan of Manny’s but I am more of a TRUTH ADVOCATE. The guy gets a bad rap but no one can give me a valid reason why. What special tailor made fighters that Manny has benefited from? He has fought the for the most part the best available guys, of all colors, styles, height and weights. I’m curious to know about this special matchmaking. Before Manny and Floyd had their public feud nobody talked bad about him. All I’m saying is have your own mind. Manny Pacquiao is the most accomplished fighter of this generation and out of all of the elite fighters of the past 15 years he has had by far the roughest road up.


So......um, yeah

I dont go back and forth with Floyd Stans, because you guys are at a disadvantage. Most of you know nothing about boxing except Floyd, so it's not equal knowledge that we're dealing with here


I'll let yall get back to your discussions though, I didnt wanna come through and kick down the buildings, but hey, shyt happens




#BandCamp

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

Damn breh....you could've at least @me or quoted me if you were going to respond to me.

I'ma just leave this in here with you and let my man Stephen "Breadman" Edwards school you youngsters on Pacquiao's resume, because you Floyd stans only believe what Floyd says which is VERY untrue.

Q. "You seem to be a big Manny Pacquiao fan and I can’t understand why. I do believe he is a special puncher and his foot speed is incredible, so I get the physical part. But his accomplishments are watered down. Most of his opponents are coming off of losses. Most of his fights are at catchweights. Everything seems to be made to order for him. Explain your infatuation with him?"
Bread’s Response: You sound so stupid. Someone told you or you read somewhere that Pacquiao has fought a bunch of catchweight fights so you repeat it. You also must’ve been told that Pacquiao has fought a bunch of guys coming off of losses. So you repeat that too. Because I don’t repeat a bunch of lies that have been told on this man I’m infatuated with him. You are a complete idiot my friend. Only an idiot would repeat a lie as the truth and try to put someone down with it.

Let me explain something to you. I am a Manny fan. The reason being is because of how hard he had it. The first time I saw Manny fight was over 10 years ago and I saw a supreme talent. In about 2009 I saw all of his accomplishments come into question and I researched a few things. This may surprise you.

In my research I found out that Pacquiao is the only 3 division champion in the history of boxing that was the underdog in his first 3 title tries. You may not realize the implications of that statement but let me spell it out for you. In boxing terms that is unheard of. Manny Pacquaio was being FED. Think about this, Adrien Broner just won his 3rd title. He was of similar age to Manny for each of his titles. He was the overwhelming favorite in ALL of his title tries.

Manny fought Chatchai Sasakul who was 33-1 when Manny fought him. Manny was just 19 years old. Sasakul was the deal. So good in fact he gave Yuri Arbachakov his only career loss. Some consider Arbachakov the BEST flyweight of the 90’s. That’s how good he was. The fight between Manny and Sasakul is on youtube. You can see Manny was over his head, he was just a gun and he persevered and scored a dramatic come from behind ko.

In his next title try he fought he fought Lehlo Ledwaba. Dude was a monster and considered to be the best fighter at 122. Manny was like a 6 to 1 underdog. He destroyed him. Manny was just 22 when he did that.
Then in his next title try he fights the 3rd best p4p fighter in the world in Marco Antonio Barerra and he beats him to a pulp. Now Manny is a 3 division champion at 24 years old and he was the underdog in all of his title tries. And he beat the best fighter in the division to win each of those titles.

Then Manny takes on Juan Manuel Marquez to unify in his very next fight. The promoters didn’t give him any stay busy show case fights…….. He gets a draw. Then he engages in his trilogy with Eric Morales. Morales was coming off of a 12 round majority decision loss in the fight of the year to Barrera. Pacquiao haters act like Morales was kod in 1 round and then fought Pacquiao. There was nothing wrong with that fight. Did I add it was at 130, Pacquiao was yet moving up again. Morales has just had big HBO fights with Marcos Maidana and Danny Garcia recently but Pac gets flack for fighting him at 130lbs 8 years ago. Unbelievable.

He settles things with Morales, fights Barrera in a rematch and then goes for his 4th title vs an all time great in Marquez. So in 4 title tries the one time he is the favorite is against the best fighter he has faced. Next he fights David Diaz in his 5th title try a fight in which Pacquiao got criticized. But Diaz was33-1 and he had just beat Morales. It was Pacquiao’s first fight at 135. Next he gets the Oscar call.

I am going to ask you why would Oscar want to make Manny look good. Manny made himself look good by fighting the perfect fight against a man that was 3 divisions bigger and 6 inches taller. He was being fed again, he just didn’t cooperate.

Next he goes for his 6th title try against Ricky Hatton. He almost kills Hatton. So let’s keep track in 6 title tries he was the underdog 3x. He also fought the best fighter in the division 5 out of 6 times, the only time he didn’t was against David Diaz. Next he fights Miguel Cotto at a catchweight of 145lbs and destroys him. That’s his 7th title and the 6th time he fought the best guy in the division for the title. Remember Floyd was just coming out of retirement at this time.

Despite what people try to say. Oscar, Hatton and Cotto were all coming off of wins not losses. Oscar had just beat Steve Forbes, Hatton had just beat Paulie Malignaggi. In fact he stopped him in 2008 when Adrien Broner couldn’t last month. And Cotto had just beat Michael Jennings and Joshua Clottey. So up until that point only Morales was coming off of a loss and he’s the only fighter to beat Manny in that decade, go figure smart guy.

Next up we have Joshua Clottey who was coming off of a split decision loss. Some people say he beat Cotto but if those same people don’t like Pacman they say Clottey was coming off of a loss. Mike Alvarado will be fighting Ruslan Provodnikov coming off of one of those same losses. There is nothing wrong with that.

Then Pac fights Margarito at a stupid catchweight but I don’t believe it benefited him. Margarito was never more than a BIG welter to me, so they let him come in at 150 and he rehydrated up to 165. He took away Pac’s prime in that fight. Then Pac picked on a shot Shane Mosley. I have no problem admitting that. Next he fights undefeated Tim Bradley sandwiched by two Marquez fights. Now he’s fighting Brandon Rios coming off of a razor close loss in his comeback fight after being violently kod.

What favors has this man been done? Seriously. I’m telling you straight up there is no way I would let my fighters fight the kind of killers that Pacquiao has, multiple times, giving up that kind of experience,weight and height. The one guy who gave him trouble, they made him fight 4x…. He was robbed against Bradley….. He gave up so much size to Margarito that he laid in bed for 3 days AFTER the fight.I can go on and on.
Tell me another modern fighter that has had to go through that. And I only named the BIG fights and title wins. People like to repeat lies and nonsense about this guy. But the truth is he has had it harder than any fighter in recent history. You guys talk about catchweights but not so much anymore. I wonder why. I won’t bring up Floyd because I am actually a big fan of his also. Yes guys, you can be a Pacman and Moneyman fan at the same time. But Floyd hasn’t had it nearly as rough as PAcquiao, especially coming up.

But let’s get back to catchweights. Pacquiao asked for 2 catchweights, Cotto and Margarito. Marquez asked for two also. Both times 144 against Pacquiao and Mayweather and no one speaks a word about it. Cotto who was supposedly opposed to catchweights, asked for one against Margarito. Somebody hit up Margarito’s trainer on twitter and he will tell you the deal. They settled at an asinine 153 but because Margarito was a cheater nobody cared.

Paul Williams fought Sergio Martinez at 157 and no one spoke a word about it. The great Bernard Hopkins fought Kelly Pavlik and Winky Wright at 170lbs and we don’t talk about it. Now the best fighter in the world is fighting Saul Alvarez at 152lbs but yet Manny PAcquiao is the Catchweight King. I only named recent big fights. Go figure again…. #TRUTH

I am a fan of Manny’s but I am more of a TRUTH ADVOCATE. The guy gets a bad rap but no one can give me a valid reason why. What special tailor made fighters that Manny has benefited from? He has fought the for the most part the best available guys, of all colors, styles, height and weights. I’m curious to know about this special matchmaking. Before Manny and Floyd had their public feud nobody talked bad about him. All I’m saying is have your own mind. Manny Pacquiao is the most accomplished fighter of this generation and out of all of the elite fighters of the past 15 years he has had by far the roughest road up.

So......um, yeah

I dont go back and forth with Floyd Stans, because you guys are at a disadvantage. Most of you know nothing about boxing except Floyd, so it's not equal knowledge that we're dealing with here


I'll let yall get back to your discussions though, I didnt wanna come through and kick down the buildings, but hey, shyt happens




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You posted a worthless article from a " writer " as equally worthless Nothing in the article refutes anything I said
dude is a Napiao dikk rider and Floyd hater. I'm on my phone right now but once I'm home I got know problem shytting on this garbage ass article for you .