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You sound surprised at what she's saying, breh :mjlol:

Like a gene strand missed you or some shyt...:dead:


nikka was perplexed when he saw the video on some "wait, this doesn't make sense because...
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You done pissed him off now. You don't even want to let him know that the Hausa were the ones that stopped the slave trade in Igboland. In fact an Igbo PHD named Ozodi Osuji wrote about it:


"...For the purposes of Igbo land, they arranged with the Ijaw and Efik (at Bonney and Calaba respectively) to sell to them Africans.

The Ijaw and Efik first sold their people to them. Later, the Ijaw and Efik arranged with a segment of Igbos closest to them called Aro (their home is Arochukwu but they are settled all over Alaigbo...including in my very compound, indeed, some people say that yours truly is an Aro!).

The Aro arranged for Abriba, Abam, and Ohafia and Ngwa people to roam all over Alaigbo capturing slaves and matching them to Arochukwu and from there sold them to Efik people who sold them to the Portuguese at Calaba.

Some slaves were sold from Owerri (what is now called Owerri town was a slave market called owere...it has been taken, slaves have been taken).

The slaves sold at Owerri were marched to Bonny (via Igwe Ocha, now called Port Harcourt) and sold to Ijaw people, who sold them to the Portuguese.

This whole thing began around 1500 AD and lasted until 1902. In 1902 captain Frederick Lugard with Hausa solders (he called them West African Frontier Army...Lugard was part of the British Army in India and was discharged and was unemployed and roaming the streets of London looking for job and one day saw a classified AD asking for ex-soldiers to come join George Goldie's Royal Niger Company and he joined up...and the rest, as they say, is history, he worked his way to becoming the governor general of Nigeria, including arranging the amalgamation of Northern and Southern Protectorates in 1914...the British later took Nigeria away from the Royal Niger company and decided to rule it directly and appointed Lugard as their governor (Lugard also worked in East Africa and in Hong Kong; he implemented the indirect rule system in Nigeria, using Hausa Emirs to rule Hausas, Yoruba Obas to rule Yorubas, Bini Obas to rule Bini folks and since Igbos do not have kings he appointed what he called Warrant Chiefs in most Igbo towns to rule them...the warrant chiefs were as corrupt as corrupt can be).

Lugard and his Hausa soldiers in 1902 destroyed the Arochukwu Long juju (oracle) and thereafter marched throughout Igbo land stopping slave trade; they came to Owerri, my area, in 1904 and fought with my people; my great, great grandfather, Njoku led his people in their war with Lugard; he was killed...you can read about it in a book by Professor Nwankwo of Nnsuka University on how the British conquered Igbo land.

In addition to having their mercenaries capture slaves for them, Aro people stationed so-called priest/judges in most Alaigbo villages...such as my folks who are priests in Owerri area, we are supposed to have been those Aro stationed in my area. The people brought their issues to the priest/judges to settle and the persons seeking Judicial help were often marched to Arochukwu and placed into a tunnel and those who did not come out were said to have been found guilty and swallowed by the gods...they were actually captured at the other end of the tunnel and sold into slavery to Efiks who sold them to Portuguese. The Aro god business was a slave selling racket, an elaborate ruse for selling Igbo into slavery!

Lugard destroyed Arochukwu and marched all over Alaigbo, as he said in his book, The Dual Mandate in British Tropical Africa, pacifying Igbo savages of the lower Niger... ."


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First of all, Lugard was a cac so taking his side of the story as fact is already a dumb move.

Secondly, everyone knows the arochukwu people were the main igbo slave traders in igboland, selling igbos to white people.

Most slavery that existed on the continent was nothing like the TRANS ATLANTIC slave trade that the northerners and the arochukwu pariticipated in.

Again, igbo people were very disjointed and disorganzed, hence the reason they were victimized by other tribes so easily.

And to continue to spread the LIE that yourobas sold only themselves is nonsense. Yorobas were some of the largest slave traders, and part of the reason the Dahomey became a large slave trading group themselves, which was to protect themselves from the youroba slave raiders.

Igbos traded slaves but on a far smaller and local scale than the hausas and the yourbas, two well organized and established african kingdoms
 

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It is kind of funny, because I noticed that a lot of Igbos assume that all the slaves were Igbos. The especially assume that every African American is Igbo, which is completely untrue.

No one said "all" you disingenuous clown.

The FACTS are igbo people were a SIGNIFICANT portion of slaves taken from the continent. Do you disagree?
 

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First of all, Lugard was a cac so taking his side of the story as fact is already a dumb move.

Secondly, everyone knows the arochukwu people were the main igbo slave traders in igboland, selling igbos to white people.

Most slavery that existed on the continent was nothing like the TRANS ATLANTIC slave trade that the northerners and the arochukwu pariticipated in.

Again, igbo people were very disjointed and disorganzed, hence the reason they were victimized by other tribes so easily.

And to continue to spread the LIE that yourobas sold only themselves is nonsense. Yorobas were some of the largest slave traders, and part of the reason the Dahomey became a large slave trading group themselves, which was to protect themselves from the youroba slave raiders.

Igbos traded slaves but on a far smaller and local scale than the hausas and the yourbas, two well organized and established african kingdoms

Did you read the article? :sas2:

The writer was an Igbo PHD. He was writing about the Igbo selling slaves to White people during the TRANSATLANTIC slave trade
. He was talking about the dirt y'all nikkas were doing to each other. He only mentioned Lugard to discuss who crushed the Igbo slave traders. :sas1:

What else you got to say? :unimpressed:

Instead of hanging your head in shame about the shyt your ancestors were doing you are in here lying on Hausa and Yoruba brehs. :beli:
 

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Did you read the article? :sas2:

The writer was an Igbo PHD. He was writing about the Igbo selling slaves to White people during the TRANSATLANTIC slave trade
. He was talking about the dirt y'all nikkas were doing to each other. He only mentioned Lugard to discuss who crushed the Igbo slave traders. :sas1:

What else you got to say? :unimpressed:

Instead of hanging your head in shame about the shyt your ancestors were doing you are in here lying on Hausa and Yoruba brehs. :beli:


And i've already admitted that igbos sold other igbos you moron, but it was particularly amongst the arochukwu tribe. Hausas and Yorubas were known slave traders on a much more sophisticated scale. Are you seriously denying this?


Plus, you've yet to admit that igbos were also a significant part of the haitian ancestry.

Stop quoting me if you don't want to argue in good faith cac.
 

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No, the facts and the DNA speak for themselves idiot.

This is about the Nigerian samples right off of the 23andme website:

" 279 Nigerian, Yoruba and Esan."

I don't see Igbo anywhere. Maybe they are included in the generic Nigerian descriptor, which also no doubt includes Hausa and Fulani people too. But by and large they only tested Yoruba people; and the Esan are Yoruba.
 

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Of course. No one is debating that yorobas weren't taken to haiti. What im telling you is SUBSTANTIAL NUMBERS OF IGBOS WERE taken to haiti. Before the collpase of the youroba empire, they were themselves huge slavers, and part of the reason dahomey themselves became huge slavers.

The igbo people were one of slaveries BIGGEST victims, not withstanding the MINORITY of igbo people selling other igbos.

You're well know as an anti-igbo bigot, so your refusal to accept the yoroba's major role as SLAVE TRADERS isn't surprising.

SMH

Yeah and they were victimized almost exclusively by other Igbos.

No matter how you slice it and dice it; that is really unique in slave trading history. People almost never sold their own ethnic group. So the Igbo were definitely unique in that respect.
 

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Yeah and they were victimized almost exclusively by other Igbos.

No matter how you slice it and dice it; that is really unique in slave trading history. People almost never sold their own ethnic group. So the Igbo were definitely unique in that respect.

This is a lie. Aro kingdom were the main slavers in igboland.

Yorobas sold each other as well lying ass. Hausas were also well known slave raiders as they moved all over west africa. This small excerpt from wikipedia clearly illustrates that.

The Hausa Kingdoms were independent political entities in what is now Northern Nigeria. The Hausa city states emerged as southern terminals of the Trans-Saharan caravan trade. Like other cities such as Gao and Timbuktu in the Mali Empire, these city states became centres of long distance trade. Hausa merchants in each of these cities collected trade items from domestic areas such as leather, dyed cloth, horse gear, metal locks and Kola nuts from the rain forest region to the south through trade or slave raiding, processed (and taxed) them and then sent them north to cities along the Mediterranean.[49] By the 12th century AD the Hausa were becoming one of Africa's major trading powers, competing with Kanem-Bornu and the Mali Empire.[50] The primary exports were leather, gold, cloth, salt, kola nuts, slaves, animal hides, and henna. Certainly trade influenced religion. By the 14th century, Islam was becoming widespread in Hausaland as Wangara scholars, scholars and traders from Mali and scholars and traders from the Maghreb brought the religion with them.[51]

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Oyo people sold other Yoruba, aomething that was accelerated with the collapse of the kingdom. In their heyday, the oyo terrorized Benin and Dahomey people.

You've shown your biased or purposefully ignornant. Whatever igbo breh that stole ya girl back i the day let me apologize on thier behalf.

Anti-igbo sentiment is nothing new. Thankfully we're a blessed people so we'll be allright, despite the lies perpetuated by clowns like yourself.

Good day
 

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This is a lie. Aro kingdom were the main slavers in igboland.

Yorobas sold each other as well lying ass. Hausas were also well known slave raiders as they moved all over west africa. This small excerpt from wikipedia clearly illustrates that.

I don't think that wikepedia entry is for the transatlantic slave trade. I am pretty sure that is for inter-Africa trade, because they are mentioning Mali and Kanem Bornu. You might want to check that again.
 
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