Is one a racist if he/she denies the Jewish Holauchaust?

[Brock Landers]

If she denies it entirely then she's stupid, but if she disputes accounts/numbers etc then she's got some common sense

 

[VegasCAC]

If she denies it entirely then she's stupid, but if she disputes accounts/numbers etc then she's got some common sense

If you're not a historian that's just into a pure esoteric debate, what is the point of disputing whether its 6 million or 4 million if you're not trying to invalidate the level of Jewish suffering and atrocity

 

[Loop Ba$eCrawler]

Only thing that's messed up about the holocaust is the Jews made it seem like nobody else suffered in that war. The Russians lost about the same amount of people to even more brutal methods of killing by the Germans. The Chinese had it even worse at the hands of the Japanese. Germans at least let a good amount of Jews work or flee...The Japanese went through China slaughtering everybody with no other options.

 

[iFightSeagullsForBread]

I'm not going to lie. Sarah Silverman is a good looking Woman. I'm not trying to get Kimmeled.

Lowkey she is pretty bad as fukk for a Jewish chick

There's a few Jewish broads up here in the Chi that are status, but I ain't trying to deal with no from the so called "chosen people"

tho to keep 100 hunna, they look good up until their 40's.

 

[Slaimon Khan Shah]

tho to keep 100 hunna

They might look good up to 100 years old.

 

[Regine Hunter]

I acknowledge the holocaust, yeah that shyt sucked.

But the fact that it gets much more awareness and all round sympathy from society on a global scale than the trans-Atlantic, trans-Arabic slave trade (where we're often told to forget about it), makes me not want to give a fukk about it.

I don't know all that happened after the war was over and the survivors were released, but I believe they got their reparations from certain countries. Nobody wanna talk about Palestine in 1947, and events afterwards either


We still get treated like shyt and haven't received shyt for it. Hell they still exploiting us to this day.

Digressing as fukk, but I guess it is racist to not acknowledge it, therefore I guess I'm a racist

 

[Brock Landers]

If you're not a historian that's just into a pure esoteric debate, what is the point of disputing whether its 6 million or 4 million if you're not trying to invalidate the level of Jewish suffering and atrocity

Only 2 million more people? How precious does one regard a single human life then? It's accountability. The jewish people have parlayed this atrocity into a favorable position for themselves and such shouldn't have a problem with someone presenting a factual assessment of their history if it is possible. My problem is not with the jewish people on the whole but the double standards that the majority seem to live by.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

I'm not going to lie. Sarah Silverman is a good looking Woman. I'm not trying to get Kimmeled.

 

[richaveli83]

I met a Holocaust survivor years ago. He lost the majority of his family. He even had the tattoo on his arm. There is no denying it happened but the jews use it to justify Israel doing whatever they want and for jewish control, the role they played in the transatlantic slave trade, and influence in the entertainment industry and banking/finance. In 20-30 years when the last Holocaust survivors die they still still be using it as an excuse while black people are told to get over slavery and jim crow.

 

[mbewane]

Only thing that's messed up about the holocaust is the Jews made it seem like nobody else suffered in that war. The Russians lost about the same amount of people to even more brutal methods of killing by the Germans. The Chinese had it even worse at the hands of the Japanese. Germans at least let a good amount of Jews work or flee...The Japanese went through China slaughtering everybody with no other options.

True. Hell even in the concentration camps it wasn't only the Jews getting exterminated.

What else is fukked up on the part of Europeans is that Hitler has been presented as some kind of monster, an anormal abberation while anti-semitism was high in ALL OF EUROPE before WW2 and that Hitler's policies were a logical consequence of other well-established political and social ideas in Germany (Lest we forget what Imperial Germany did in Namibia years before Hitler was anywhere near power). Europeans use Hitler and Nazis to divert attention from what they have done themselves, so it's not only Jews/Israël using the Holocaust for political means. Hitler was no "surprise" in Europe, he was a logical consequence. Extreme yes, but logical.

 

[richaveli83]

True. Hell even in the concentration camps it wasn't only the Jews getting exterminated.

What else is fukked up on the part of Europeans is that Hitler has been presented as some kind of monster, an anormal abberation while anti-semitism was high in ALL OF EUROPE before WW2 and that Hitler's policies were a logical consequence of other well-established political and social ideas in Germany (Lest we forget what Imperial Germany did in Namibia years before Hitler was anywhere near power). Europeans use Hitler and Nazis to divert attention from what they have done themselves, so it's not only Jews/Israël using the Holocaust for political means. Hitler was no "surprise" in Europe, he was a logical consequence. Extreme yes, but logical.

Exactly! Anti-semitism was huge around the world and particularly in Europe before Hitler was even born. There were pogroms against the Jews decades before the Holocaust. It was one reason why the initial anti Jewish laws established in Germany when Hitler rose to power were accepted by ordinary Germans because Europeans were used to used to it.

 

[mbewane]

Exactly! Anti-semitism was huge around the world and particularly in Europe before Hitler was even born. There were pogroms against the Jews decades before the Holocaust. It was one reason why the initial anti Jewish laws established in Germany when Hitler rose to power were accepted by ordinary Germans because Europeans were used to used to it.

Yep. One of the reasons why so many gladly collaborated with Nazi Germany (People always talk about "Nazis", but hardly ever of French, Belgians, Dutch, Italians, Croats, Austrians, Hungarians etc...who collaborated with them). Again, Hitler is used as a boogeyman by most Europeans to try to show that he was not a "normal occurence". It's easier to present him as a monster than as a logical result of century-long anti-semitism, rise of nationalism, post WW1 german feeling of humiliation (caused by the Versailles treaty) and "scientific racism" that was promoted all over Europe. It allows Europeans to distance themselves from them. Nowadays when one talks about antisemitism in France for example, it is implied that they're talking about muslims, to the point that people believe antisemitism was imported by Arab immigrants, which is total bs.

 

[Loop Ba$eCrawler]

Yep. One of the reasons why so many gladly collaborated with Nazi Germany (People always talk about "Nazis", but hardly ever of French, Belgians, Dutch, Italians, Croats, Austrians, Hungarians etc...who collaborated with them). Again, Hitler is used as a boogeyman by most Europeans to try to show that he was not a "normal occurence". It's easier to present him as a monster than as a logical result of century-long anti-semitism, rise of nationalism, post WW1 german feeling of humiliation (caused by the Versailles treaty) and "scientific racism" that was promoted all over Europe. It allows Europeans to distance themselves from them. Nowadays when one talks about antisemitism in France for example, it is implied that they're talking about muslims, to the point that people believe antisemitism was imported by Arab immigrants, which is total bs.

That is a common theme due to the education system in America at least. I'm white and had no clue about what the other nations did around the world until after high school and learning on my own about world history. Picasso and nearly every other famous artist from that country got their style from the art that was brought back from Africa, the Americas and the Carribean. They got that art from pillaging places as they went. Hitler was just a magnified version of what was already happening but he decided to mess with Russia and the surrounding nations so things got messy.

 

[mbewane]

That is a common theme due to the education system in America at least. I'm white and had no clue about what the other nations did around the world until after high school and learning on my own about world history. Picasso and nearly every other famous artist from that country got their style from the art that was brought back from Africa, the Americas and the Carribean. They got that art from pillaging places as they went. Hitler was just a magnified version of what was already happening but he decided to mess with Russia and the surrounding nations so things got messy.

Yep, every single country in the world obviously adapts history to what it wants it to be learned. If Hitler hadn't messed with Russia and had "settled" for Mitteleuropa with puppet/allied gvts in Italy, France, Belgium and the Netherlands he would've lasted longer.

 

[315]

Surprised this thread hasn't been deleted