Is Pharrell number one for longevity as a top producer in the game?
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Plankton
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Rick Rubin has never programmed a damn drum hit or anything in his life. I hope you know this when you and many others keep mentioning him behind legends like Pharrell
That goof curates the recording experience he's a studio coach. And people still continue to glaze him.
I expect much more from a rap subforum. No he is not the answer unless the question is what does white privilege look like
You can put a different spin on it all you want but Rick Rubin is a producer similar to P Diddy. When Nirvana hired Steve Albini to "produce" In Utero him being labeled a "producer" wasn't dissected like you are doing now. If we don't do that to Steve Albini we not all of a sudden changing the rules and doing it to Rick Rubin. The thread title says "producer" not beat maker.
Plankton
Superstar
Ahh yes, hip hop legends The Red Hot Chili Peppers and Imagine Dragons
Pharrell produced for pop legends Britney Spears and Justine Timberlake. Notice how you didn't speak on Pharell doing music outside of Hip Hop when OP suggested his name but you here doing it for Rick and think you have merit in your words.
A few of those albums sucked and he was a big part of the reason why
Plankton
Superstar
I knew it was only a matter of time before history rewriters would come in here and bring up Rump Shaker and Teddy Riley. Pharell wrote on Rump Shaker. He didn't produce anything on that song. Thread title says "producer" not "song writer." Like I said, Pharrell don't got 32 years in the game like Rick Rubin.
Pharrell produced for pop legends Britney Spears and Justine Timberlake. Notice how you didn't speak on Pharell doing music outside of Hip Hop when OP suggested his name but you here doing it for Rick and think you have merit in your words.
I am OP
I don’t even understand what you are trying to say here.
Plankton
Superstar
I am OP
You don't understand because you are purposely playing dumb. Why are you stressing Rick Rubin producing The Red Hot Chili Peppers and Imagine Dragons not being Hip Hop yet ignoring Pharrell producing music for Britney Sprears and Justin Timberlake who also aren't Hip Hop? Thread tile says "producer" and doesn't specify genre. If you are bringing up Pharell who does music outside of Hip Hop then Rick Rubin qualifies too because no one takes away anything from Pharell being a Hip Hop producer just because he did "Blurred Lines" for Robin Thick or "Happy" for himself.
Bugzbunny129
All Star
Alc is overrated. Hes just only one working with dozens of new artists in new age to keep his name out there. But none of those songs touching 90s clsssics and he has never reached a peak like qtip, rza, premier, pete where entire albums are ground breaking beat after groundbreaking beat in their own style.
He is king of the “good” albums. Listenable for the year. They aint great tho. Thats why his singles are always so much better than rest of album. Ive never seen him do it an entire album on a 10/10 level.
Muggs is the same way for past 20. But his albums feel more like albums.
Plankton
Superstar
Ahh yes, of course… Diddy always comes up in lists of all time hip hop producers
Dr Dre then.
Between Mel Man & Daz...Dre has always been accused of having others do the beat and Dre coming in and adding his one two one two and claiming all the credit yet he is still herald as one of the greatest producers in Hip Hop history. So the rules aren't changing for Diddy or Rick Rubin.
And your thread title says "producer" not "beat maker." Diddy and Rick Rubin are renown "producers." Next time specify "beat maker" if thats what you are really trying to point out.
Ok I agree you do have a point there. But Rick’s contributions to hip hop for a long time have been kinda ass, so I think myself and most others here won’t place him alongside Pharrell in this particular conversation. Not being pedantic. It’s just how I see it.
FlyGuy
pimp of the year
Not even Mr Me Too ?
thernbroom
Superstar
Kanye is better
Nope. Eat a dikk worshipping white privilege. We dot play that. Nobody listing puffy in those best of lists so why would you put Rick there. Moron. There's facts and logic. No spin. The myth of Rick Rubin is just that a myth.
Now notice you keep talking about rock "producers" that wasn't what this thread was about. Rap doesn't follow Rock rules. Rap producers are the musicians, the backdrop... we don't have bands on average the producer is the band. Are you retarded friend? First you mention that goof then you try to act like rap and rock are 1:1. Nope.
Stop trying to insert that far lazy entitled piece of shyt into the rap lists.
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Plankton
Superstar
Nope. Eat a dikk worshipping white privilege. We dot play that. Nobody listing puffy in those best of lists so why would you put Rick there. Moron. There's facts and logic. No spin. The myth of Rick Rubin is just that a myth.
Now notice you keep talking about rock "producers" that wasn't what this thread was about. Rap doesn't follow Rock rules. Rap producers are the musicians, the backdrop... we don't have bands on average the producer is the band. Are you retarded friend? First you mention that goof then you try to act like rap and rock are 1:1. Nope.
Stop trying to insert that far lazy entitled piece of shyt into the rap lists.
Please stop e thugging and talk cordial like grown up because I know for a fact you would never tell me to eat a dikk or call me a "moron" if I were in front of you. You don't see me talking to you with disrespect so you should be doing likewise.
And I don't take you serious in this convo because you trying to bring race into it calling Rick a "culture vulture" and that doesn't correlate with the actual history. Rick created Def Jam and had T La Rock on the radio before Russell was ever involved. It was Russel who sought out Rick and pushed the idea of taking Def Jam further. Obviously Russell didn't see Rick like how you are portraying him. And then in 88 Rick humbly bowed out and let Russell take the full lead. That's not the actions of a culture vulture.
And you are telling
I didnt bring up Rock producer(s) with an S. I only brought up 1 rock producer and aligned him with the similar task of what Puffy does defining him as a "producer." When OP dismissed Puffy I brought up Dr Dre. Everything I said about Dre also applies to Rick, where as Rick once did all the beats in the beginning to were he eventually had other producers in the mix just like Dre yet no one ever takes the "producer" title away from Dre like you are attempting to do now with Rick. That's why you bringing race into something that Dre has been accused of doing as well forces me to see you as just being racially biased because no one does that to Dr Dre.I said it before and I'll say it again. OP said "producer" in the thread title. He didn't say "beat maker." Rick is a "producer" by definition. "Beat maker" and "producer" are two different things.