Is Pharrell number one for longevity as a top producer in the game?

[Left.A1]

You can say the same thing about Dr Dre

I don't care about Dr.Dre I'm specifically talking about Rick Rubin as that is who you decided to inject into this conversation.… you previously mentioned that he was featured on the pink tape.… can you tell us what his actual contribution was or no?

You mentioned his contributions on the life of pablo as another example of his more modern contributions.… on that album he is given “production” credits alongside 3, 4, sometimes 5+ other producers on that project

Since you seem to be pretty emphatic that he gets his inclusion on a topic like this I'm sure you’ll be able to let us know what his actual input on these records were.……correct i’ll wait

 

[Left.A1]

You can put a different spin on it all you want but Rick Rubin is a producer similar to P Diddy. When Nirvana hired Steve Albini to "produce" In Utero him being labeled a "producer" wasn't dissected like you are doing now. If we don't do that to Steve Albini we not all of a sudden changing the rules and doing it to Rick Rubin. The thread title says "producer" not beat maker.

Steve Albini made actual sonic contributions to In Utero…. Most notably engineering the entire record giving it its soundscape…Kurt was a pixies stan and wanted Steves sound... that's why they hired him...not to lay on the fukking floor stroking his beard

 

[Don Homer]

Rick Rubin was on Lil Uzi Verts 'Pink Tape' which dropped last year.

In the 2010's he was on:

Kanye West – Yeezus
Eminem – The Marshall Mathers LP 2
Wu-Tang Clan – A Better Tomorrow
GoldLink – And After That, We Didn't Talk
Kanye West – The Life of Pablo
Eminem – Revival


The answer is Rick Rubin.

produced for Tom Petty, Red Hot Chilli Peppers and Beastie Boys in the 90s as well

yeah, it's him

 

[TheDarceKnight]

He didn't produce that song though.

He has credits on it

 

[Tetris v2.0]

I think of the mid level guys like Nottz, Jake One, Bink etc who never fell off and just kept working on lower profile stuff since the late 90s

Alchemist was able to reinvent his style. Although he relies a lot on ambiance and loops now - he never fell off imo

Most of the big names lost their edge over the years

I think Pharrell definitely deserves credit for being relatively consistent with some very high highs. Aside from Clipse work, he's still very much a pop producer to me

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Again, I don't take you serious on this topic. Once you revised Ricks history as if it wasn't Russell who went to Rick when Def Jam was already created by Rick, It told me you weren't familiar with the history at all. I can't take someone who doesn't know the history serious.


"But but but but he's not a rap producer and never has been." LOL. This right here confirms you don't know what you are talking about and you just saying anything.





You are the first person I ever heard say Rick Rubin isn't a rap producer which makes you a troll. And lets be real here. You are a Canadian non FBA who thinks you can school an FBA from The Bronx about Hip Hop. Dude, you are a non FBA from Canada. No more needs to be said. You didn't experience early/mid 80's Hip Hop in The Bronx live and direct like I did. Go some where you foreigner.




And you continuing to e thug after I asked you nicely not to do so yet you continue over a disagreement about Hip Hop music tells me you are too immature to continue with a discourse, so this will be my last reply to you. But you can have the final word you non FBA foreign troll.

Are you retarded friend? He didn't make that beat and furthermore it's taken from an ice T record. He sucks so bad he resold a beat someone made for him twice. This your proof of what? We know he takes credit for shyt he doesn't do and can't do.
Talking about me being Canadian or Non FBA doesn't change anything I said.

You are too uninformed to to have a discussion with and too hard headed to learn. Name one electronic genre of music where the beat maker isn't the producer. Let's go...

 

[Figaro]

Not even Mr Me Too ?

Enjoy the song & fukk with the whole album but nothing really about that beat makes me want to play the instrumental.

I’ve never really been a huge fan of Pharrell production style though, so that also plays a part.

 

[mrvaughn]

I’m really glad I started this Rick Rubin thread.

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

Pharrell beats very hit or miss to me now, like they work with someone like The Clipse but when he works with newer artists they rarely hit

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Has nothing to do with hits. Thread says "Top producer". Alchemist, while great, was never a Top producer. The Neptunes/Pharrell moved culture. ALC doesn't have a Clipse. Whose career did he re-define the way The Neptunes redefined Snoop's? When we talk about culture, where's ALC's "Grindin", a beat that is still revered to this day? "Superthug"?

I heard Al called the underground Pharrell recently and it's actually a pretty good comparison. I think the big similarity between the two of them is the connections and stuff they make between other artists, and they connect different people together and are often the go-between. They're both very good at networking and connecting others, and both have an insane amount of longevity and consistency. But Al is obviously more of an underground guy and Pharrell is a household name and truly a celebrity who has worked with more popular artists.

 

[Reptile]

Alchemist

The most overrated producer in the past 6 years or so.

 

[Low End Derrick]

He's up there with

• No ID
• Madlib
• Alchemist
• Kanye

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

I heard Al called the underground Pharrell recently and it's actually a pretty good comparison. I think the big similarity between the two of them is the connections and stuff they make between other artists, and they connect different people together and are often the go-between. They're both very good at networking and connecting others, and both have an insane amount of longevity and consistency. But Al is obviously more of an underground guy and Pharrell is a household name and truly a celebrity who has worked with more popular artists.

Alchemist is like the only producer that's even putting newer artists on now, he's definitely the de-facto producer for underground artists to go to. I wish the game wasn't so messed up though we could really see the artists break through...MIKE and Boldy should be household names now

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Alchemist is like the only producer that's even putting newer artists on now, he's definitely the de-facto producer for underground artists to go to. I wish the game wasn't so messed up though we could really see the artists break through...MIKE and Boldy should be household names now

Yeah, that's my favorite thing about Alc. He went out of his way asa an old head to put a ladder down for the next generations. A lot of successful old timers went up the ladder and pulled it up behind them and gatekept the game.

 

[Plankton]

I don't care about Dr.Dre I'm specifically talking about Rick Rubin as that is who you decided to inject into this conversation.… you previously mentioned that he was featured on the pink tape.… can you tell us what his actual contribution was or no?

You mentioned his contributions on the life of pablo as another example of his more modern contributions.… on that album he is given “production” credits alongside 3, 4, sometimes 5+ other producers on that project

Since you seem to be pretty emphatic that he gets his inclusion on a topic like this I'm sure you’ll be able to let us know what his actual input on these records were.……correct i’ll wait

I mean, to answer your question about TLOP, I would have to repeat myself about what I said about Dr Dre in post #51. I don't know why you would want me to repeat myself.

And il Uzi redid the Chop Suey song from System Of A Down. If Rick was involved in the beat being put together for Chop Suey and it's sampled decades later, that still counts. Kinda like how when Erykah Badu sampled XXplosive to make Bag Lady, it credits Dr Dre for being a producer.