Is Pharrell number one for longevity as a top producer in the game?

[Plankton]

Steve Albini made actual sonic contributions to In Utero…. Most notably engineering the entire record giving it its soundscape…Kurt was a pixies stan and wanted Steves sound... that's why they hired him...not to lay on the fukking floor stroking his beard

LOL @ one incident = every Rick Rubin session. Dude, just stop.


Here's Rick doing 1 beat, alone, no co producers on a Lil Jon album when Lil Jon was on fire in the mid 2000's. And I already posted 99 Problems with Jay Z where he made the beat alone with no co producers so lets not act like these lone producer moments never happened.

 

[Plankton]

produced for Tom Petty, Red Hot Chilli Peppers and Beastie Boys in the 90s as well

yeah, it's him

Yep. Rick Rubin is the answer

Rick Rubin was the first mulit genre Hip Hop producer. Kurtis Mantronik doing Hip Hop and then house/dance and Teddy Riley doing Hip Hop and then R&B/Hip Hop fusions aka New Jack Swing came after.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Enjoy the song & fukk with the whole album but nothing really about that beat makes me want to play the instrumental.

I’ve never really been a huge fan of Pharrell production style though, so that also plays a part.

I think Pharrell is dope but for some reason 99% of his beats to me I don't really care to listen to the instrumentals for them. I think his work sounds way better with vocals on them. This is coming from a guy that listens to a lot of instrumentals and beat tapes. I don't find a lot of his beats to be super interesting to listen to on their own.

That sounds like I'm talking shyt about him, but I don't mean it to come off that way. I mean, he's mostly trying to make pop records or highly accessible rap records. I feel like his whole brand production wise is "high quality junk food" because that's what good pop music is. I don't think Pharrell is making beats with the intention of having people listen to the instrumentals.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Rick Rubin has never programmed a damn drum hit or anything in his life. I hope you know this when you and many others keep mentioning him behind legends like Pharrell

That goof curates the recording experience he's a studio coach. And people still continue to glaze him.



I expect much more from a rap subforum. No he is not the answer unless the question is what does white privilege look like

This isn't true though.

People confuse what he does today, with what he was doing in the 80's. Dude produced Licensed To Ill, and wrote most of the hooks on the album. LL said that Rick had mad equipment and would make beats in his bedroom and that's how he got "Going Back to Cali". Russell also talked about how Rick was making beats for Beasties and spent more time with them away from him, so that's how he "stole" the group from Def Jam. Rick's done a lot of classic Hip Hop joints.

With his Rock sh*t, producing is different than making beats. So he's up there with the Butch Vig's Jimmy Miller's and the Bob Ezrin's of the game. He's in there pushing the bands through performances and deciding what stays and what doesn't. But he's a master around putting pieces together and crafting sound to its best level. That's what a producer does. So he can make beats, and switch genres and produce country, rock, etc.

People sleep on Rick. But the legends in Hip Hop never dude for a reason. He was a jack of all trades back in the day.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Preemo is my final answer for "top beat maker with longevity"

Man, Preemo is my #1 fave producer of all time, but he's been relatively inactive over the past 10+ years, and you'd be hard pressed to find even die hard Preemo fans that don't think his quality of work dropped a lot in that time.

He's still hella dope though. And again my favorite producer ever. But I don't think I could put him as the #1 top longevity beat maker.

I still can't wait for his new album with Nas though

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

This isn't true though.

People confuse what he does today, with what he was doing in the 80's. Dude produced Licensed To Ill, and wrote most of the hooks on the album. LL said that Rick had mad equipment and would make beats in his bedroom and that's how he got "Going Back to Cali". Russell also talked about how Rick was making beats for Beasties and spent more time with them away from him, so that's how he "stole" the group from Def Jam. Rick's done a lot of classic Hip Hop joints.

With his Rock sh*t, producing is different than making beats. So he's up there with the Butch Vig's Jimmy Miller's and the Bob Ezrin's of the game. He's in there pushing the bands through performances and deciding what stays and what doesn't. But he's a master around putting pieces together and crafting sound to its best level. That's what a producer does. So he can make beats, and switch genres and produce country, rock, etc.

People sleep on Rick. But the legends in Hip Hop never dude for a reason. He was a jack of all trades back in the day.

Nope. He used to tell his engineer what to do. Get this riff get those drums. Until his style got played out then he acted like he was too good for rap. Even if you Google him it says he has no technical abilities. Nobody slept on him. He's overrated. Russell was already doing Rush before Rick. He takes too much credit for everything. Give him all his flowers in Rock. He's not a rap producer and he doesn't even like the genre that's the funny part. People carrying water for this hater.

Premise of this thread was about a great rap producer who never fell off. Dude fell off in the 80s in rap. Dre was relevant for 3 decades in rap for comparison. Why was this dude even a mention in here? Embarrassing

 

[L $ C]

Rick Rubin was on Lil Uzi Verts 'Pink Tape' which dropped last year.

In the 2010's he was on:

Kanye West – Yeezus
Eminem – The Marshall Mathers LP 2
Wu-Tang Clan – A Better Tomorrow
GoldLink – And After That, We Didn't Talk
Kanye West – The Life of Pablo
Eminem – Revival


The answer is Rick Rubin.

i hate rick rubins produciton. that shyt is 2 pack of ass

 

[TheDarceKnight]

I knew it was only a matter of time before history rewriters would come in here and bring up Rump Shaker and Teddy Riley. Pharell wrote on Rump Shaker. He didn't produce anything on that song. Thread title says "producer" not "song writer." Like I said, Pharrell don't got 32 years in the game like Rick Rubin.

Okay, fine. I didn't know that. You don't have to hit me with the duck tales. He doesn't have 32 years. Fair enough. He's got 29, then. Is that not a lot of years?

This was like 96/97 right?

 

[TheDarceKnight]

i hate rick rubins produciton. that shyt is 2 pack of ass

Rick Rubin's production in our genre is largely trash

Maybe it's fine for rock and country, etc

 

[Left.A1]

I mean, to answer your question about TLOP, I would have to repeat myself about what I said about Dr Dre in post #51. I don't know why you would want me to repeat myself.

And il Uzi redid the Chop Suey song from System Of A Down. If Rick was involved in the beat being put together for Chop Suey and it's sampled decades later, that still counts. Kinda like how when Erykah Badu sampled XXplosive to make Bag Lady, it credits Dr Dre for being a producer.

Ahhh yes, you have 0 idea or clue as to what Rick contributed to the projects you explicitly listed in this thread meant to give him credit This retard really just wrote “he needs credit as a modern producer because his 30 year old record was sampled” LMAO Goofy ass nikka

 

[KnickstapeCity]

the high fashion faq crowd

 

[Plankton]

Man, Preemo is my #1 fave producer of all time, but he's been relatively inactive over the past 10+ years, and you'd be hard pressed to find even die hard Preemo fans that don't think his quality of work dropped a lot in that time.

He's still hella dope though. And again my favorite producer ever. But I don't think I could put him as the #1 top longevity beat maker.

I still can't wait for his new album with Nas though

So who is your Top #1?

I brought up that song he did on Compton because that would have been 26 years from his debut era.




And I can tell that the other producer on this track only added those synths at the chorus because that's not Preemo's style. But everything else is Preemo.


And then when we finally got that Griselda/Preemo collabo a few years later, it sounded exactly like what would be expected.




And I was digging the joint he did on Bustas ELE 2 a year later. And that same year during the pandemic, the song he did on Conways from King To God was dope. And I was really fukking with the PE collabo. I felt that this sound was Bomb Squad mixed with Preemo and it came out real dope for some 50 plus year old Hip Hop legends





Now I feel we are supposed to give leeway for a producer as he ages and his style falters from the era he came up in while Hip Hop itself rejuvenates and goes into a new era. So with Preemo I expect his sound to always be boom bap even in an era where boom bap isn't as popular as it once was. And the above songs I mentioned were recent and they were dope. I don't expect Preemo to make popular hits in this era like he did in the 90's. I just expect him to make songs that knock and I feel he has complete that mission even as of recent and that Common "In Moe" song I posted being further proof of that.

That "Can You Dig It" song with Snoop sounded like 2024 Gangstarr with missing Guru lyrics so Preemo is 35 Plus years in. Pharrell's starting point will always be 1997 with that "Why you over there looking at me" song from Mase so Pharrell has 28 years in. But Pharrell has also done alternative/pop/R&B so his style has a more commercial range over Preemos style.

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

First page is I had to point out Rick Rubin wasn’t a real producer /beatmaker for yall nikkas

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

He don’t? Bro was legit making songs w/ Teddy Riley

You can hear pharrell voice on swv shyt.. pharell been in it since forever

 

[Awesome Wells]

Nope. He used to tell his engineer what to do. Get this riff get those drums. Until his style got played out then he acted like he was too good for rap. Even if you Google him it says he has no technical abilities. Nobody slept on him. He's overrated. Russell was already doing Rush before Rick. He takes too much credit for everything. Give him all his flowers in Rock. He's not a rap producer and he doesn't even like the genre that's the funny part. People carrying water for this hater.

Premise of this thread was about a great rap producer who never fell off. Dude fell off in the 80s in rap. Dre was relevant for 3 decades in rap for comparison. Why was this dude even a mention in here? Embarrassing

He didn't have an engineer in his dorm room. He was 19, bro. LOL!!

LL used to spend the night there and be in there watching Rick sample records and make beats, while he rapped on a mic that Rick set up in the closet. He clarified what he meant by not having "technical abilities". He was speaking not being "great" on the SSL. Which he always said he sucks on.

Rush isn't Def Jam. Rush was management. But yeah, Rick isn't just a one genre producer, he's done it all. Whoever mentioned Rick in here was right, just as an overall producer, Rick had ridiculous longevity and classics.