Neil does not b*stardize the science like he doeswhat about Neil
he's a bit excitable and still has that nerdy goofiness but that's about it
Is Quantum Physics bullshat?
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he's a bit excitable and still has that nerdy goofiness but that's about it
Neil's on some, I'm black, look at me, I know science tip
not sure what would be wrong with that but it could also be that's how people choose to look at him because he's the singular black scientist allowed on tvNeil's on some, I'm black, look at me, I know science tip
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well him and this 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So is there really a way to explain Quantum Physics in layman's terms without having to say, "trust me" ?
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Brown_Pride said:
Einstein described it as 'spooky action at a distance'............
I think Future did a better job, right @NapoleonEinstein described it as 'spooky action at a distance'............
Who knew rappers had the intellectual capacity to talk about particle / wave dualities
what can be done is show you the results of a series of experiments that the defy the local world and express phenomena such as
-entanglement
-photonic interference with particle wave duality
-gravitational time dilation
there's more but I am too tired right now but
look at the experiments for yourself and see what you come up with
the works of Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, Newton etc all lead to a very clean intelligible mechanistic world
meaning given all the results of their experiments and observations one can expect almost anyone to come to their conclusions.
one can sort of see the empirical sprockets working their invisible magic in a fashion that remains consistent with the physical world we experience everyday; moreover, they set hard and fast rules for HOW THINGS WORK. But in the new quantum mechanics not only can't we see the sprockets, we don't even have rules on how to see them, we are still in the stage of collecting empirical data and hoping it can all be synthesized into a theoretical framework that still respects Newtonian physics or at least explain where they separate and still manage to work in the same world.
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so basically not at this time right? I mean clearly the shyt works but in terms of the new quantum mechanics we're not really able to explain things (which is acceptable and expected give the cutting age of the tech). Essentially though, and for lack of a better word, the mechanization of quantum mechanics aren't concrete nor explainable beyond theory. That's been my understanding of things up to this point but I"m not a theoretical physicist so I was curious if there was a better answer.
that's the thing, the experimental findings are not the sort of datum you can dismiss simply because of a lack of theory
they entice every layer of the imagination
if they are intelligible (ie "mechanical"), they will be only be so through a revolution in physics, involving unknown forces/particles or through a dismantling of certain core tenets of current physics.
Consider one simple implication of entanglement: faster then light communication
what would you like to use to make that explainable
-a new particle faster than light? (Einstein would like to have a word with you!)
or
-a complete violation of spacetime density?
or
-a complete redefinition of reality?
no matter how you look at it excitement awaits
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Explain I thought it opened up the possibility, in fact haven't hey already done this to a degree?
I guess what i'm asking is that RIGHT NOW our understanding of quantum mechanics is to a point where we really don't know shyt? Or such a small amount that we can't aptly explain why a good chunk of things happen? I mean we have theories but we're still so early on in our understanding of things in this area that we don't have any solid answers right?
question
does entanglement allow instantaneous transfer of state property regardless of separation?
I would not feel comfortable saying something like that, it feels disrespectful of the beauiful science that has been carried on just to get you to know the words quantum mechanics
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I'm not trying to diminish the great work that's already been done i'm just trying to find an honest way to respond to the question.
Do have answers? No. Are we looking for them? Yes.
Whenever I can't give a direct answer I say I don't know or it's being looked into, pointing to benefits we already enjoy comes of like a sales pitch.
