is redman's dare the darkside up there with big's ready to die, nas' illmatic, gza's liquid swords?

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Yes. Classic. Better performance wise than Muddy Waters, just not as accessible. Just like All We Got Iz Us by Onyx. These albums were for the heads, not the masses.
 

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i was sayin' "really" in reference to you sayin' you never see muddy waters gettin' mentioned when with me it's the opposite. most people i know always reference that album as their favrorite and redman's best

oh i remember clearly

big had puffy to help smooth out his image and all. puff played a major role in big's image and sellin' him in a more commercial way. for example, "the one more chance" remix helped in a major way. biggie would've been a lot like redman (respected among his peers but strictly a gold record sellin' artist) had he not had puff's help with smoothin' his music and image out

redman ain't been one to make his image anythin' other just bein' a street brother with a sense of humor from jersey. raw, grimy and funny street rhymes is his lane

it was just always understand that nas was just great. nas is really unlike any other mc. like he won't never really the club makin' type brother although he's tried years later a couple of times but that's not his lane. with illmatic, nas was just like this young but wise street brother who was in the hood but had this way of already lookin' from the outside at things. nas was and is ahead of his time

Puffy ironing out Biggie's raw street image came much later with Juicy and Big Poppa..long before then, people had already caught wind of Biggie via Party n Bullshyt and they had already started asking questions and looking out for him, I know I was..I think hardcore Biggie and soft Biggie you couldnt deny either one, and you had to take notice, he was that good. Puffy got him to the masses quicker, but I think the masses would have taken to Biggie regardless. He had the ability to serve both markets well, I wouldnt give Puffy credut for that.
Nas was heralded as the 2nd coming of Ra, so already had hype. Red on the other hand I wonder, cause the goofball antics may have eroded how people that wanted to take him seriously now couldnt.
 
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Puffy ironing out Biggie's raw street image came much later with Juicy and Big Poppa..long before then, people had already caught wind of Biggie via Party n Bullshyt and they had already started asking questions and looking out for him, I know I was..I think hardcore Biggie and soft Biggie you couldnt deny either one, and you had to take notice, he was that good. Puffy got him to the masses quicker, but I think the masses would have taken to Biggie regardless. He had the ability to serve both markets well, I wouldnt give Puffy credut for that.
Nas was heralded as the 2nd coming of Ra, so already had hype. Red on the other hand I wonder, cause the goofball antics may have eroded how people that wanted to take him seriously now couldnt.

you ain't tellin' me nothin' i didn't already know, bruh. i was there, i lived it :myman:
 

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Hell yeah...anyone who prefers Muddy Waters to this is buggin.....his style was already watered down with MW. Darkside is Red at his rawest. Mega classic and one of my favorite albums ever. Way better than Illmatic and RTD
 
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Favorite Redman album.

i maybe the only one who likes whut thee album the best. muddy use to be my favorite but over the years it's taken second place to whut
dare comes in third place

am i the only redman fan who thinks doc's da name was actually a great album? people sleep on that album some kinda heavy. but red's rhymes were still intact and erick sermon produced like 11 tracks on that muthafukka :wow:

red didn't fall off till malpractice imo :yeshrug:
 

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i maybe the only one who likes whut thee album the best. muddy use to be my favorite but over the years it's taken second place to whut
dare comes in third place

am i the only redman fan who thinks doc's da name was actually a great album? people sleep on that album some kinda heavy. but red's rhymes were still intact and erick sermon produced like 11 tracks on that muthafukka :wow:

red didn't fall off till malpractice imo :yeshrug:
Love Doc's Da Name. It was the first Redman solo album I had. Red was my favorite rapper based on that El Nino, Blackout and Docs Da Name run. I didn't hear his earlier albums until after those...
 

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y'all noticed eminem wearin' a shirt with redman's dare iz a darkside album cover on it in this new shady records documentary for complex magazine :wow:



have to get off topic but who the hell wears a suit(that is opened) with a tshirt showing :dahell:
 

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Whut Thee Album >>>> It was supposed to get 5 mics too but the editor wasn't giving them out at the time. First 3 albums are classic though.
 
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