Is suicide a selfish act?

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It's the epitome of a selfish act.

Someone is going to have a life-long scare because of your act. You're not only taking moments away from yourself, but those that invested time in having a relationship with you. You're ignoring everyone else attempts at help, because you think you know more and your solution is better.

9/10 it's an extremely selfish act. Death is never the answer, Love is always.
 

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That doesn't answer the question I was asking though. How is suicide an act that says "fukk you" to family? Does your personal opinion on whether you want to live not matter?
If you kill yourself while someone loves you (like family should) you have taken away one of their loved ones at no one's expense but theirs (assuming we are not taking after life into account). You have erased your pain by passing it to them. You have profited while not caring what your family feels about your action

self·ish
ˈselfiSH/
adjective
  1. (of a person, action, or motive) lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure.

and how does this mean you are telling them to "fukk themselves"?

fukk you
interjection

An exclamation of very strong defiance and contempt : fukk you, friend, ifthat's your attitude (1940s+)


To show contempt means you are having a lack of consideration for a person place or idea, what better way to lack consideration for someone's feeling than to be selfish in the first place


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It's the epitome of a selfish act.

Someone is going to have a life-long scare because of your act. You're not only taking moments away from yourself, but those that invested time in having a relationship with you. You're ignoring everyone else attempts at help, because you think you know more and your solution is better.

9/10 it's an extremely selfish act. Death is never the answer, Love is always.

Love isn't always the answer, they have found genetic links to suicidal behavior, try "love" with a person that is clinically depressed and comes from a family in which multiple relatives have killed themselves. There was a documentary on HBO years ago about a kid that came from a family like that and he had his first suicidal thoughts at like 5 years old, he was loved, didn't matter.

Selfish is wanting someone else to live even when they're miserable with their existence :yeshrug:
 

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If he has a mental illness how the fukk can you even think to blame him or even comprehend what he was going through to even suggest his decision was selfish?
I cannot comprehend what he was feeling. But the very fact he has two small children who will now grow up fatherless makes me feel some type of way about him doing it. The new born won't know any different because they don't really have a memory, but the 2 year old? Can you imagine dude's wife having to tell the 2 year old that he will never see his father again? Then guess what? His two children will live a life where they will always feel a void because their father is gone, and most likely will become depressed themselves. shyt is all fukked.

I once knew a girl whose mother killed herself. Girl was a senior in high school. I think that's a little different because home girl could care for herself...but to leave your tiny children and WIFE? His wife now is a single mother of 2 who will have to always rely on family to help her raise them. I remember him telling me she quit her job when they moved to Spain two years ago.
 

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To me it is. Being given life is a gift itself and no matter the circumstances, its not big enough its worth taking your life over it. Exile yourself from the world if you have to, but its better ways to deal than suicide.


There are genetic links to suicide, some people just have the wrong brain chemistry and living is agonizing in itself.
 

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From a global perspective, most of us don't mean shyt and are more likely to be hurting the whole than helping it (from being a strain on social, environmental, etc resources.)


Looking at it that way, suicide is actually a selfless act. Sure, you're going to fukk over your immediate family if you got one, but your family doesn't mean shyt in the larger scope.
 

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Maybe it was for the best.

If he knew he no longer wanted to live and his family was struggling financially,maybe he decided that the best option was to take out a life insurance policy,kill himself in a timely manner where the policy would not be challenged and leave his family a lump sum of money.
 

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Love isn't always the answer, they have found genetic links to suicidal behavior, try "love" with a person that is clinically depressed and comes from a family in which multiple relatives have killed themselves. There was a documentary on HBO years ago about a kid that came from a family like that and he had his first suicidal thoughts at like 5 years old, he was loved, didn't matter.

Selfish is wanting someone else to live even when they're miserable with their existence :yeshrug:


We may have a philosophical difference of opinion.

Love is ALWAYS the answer. The interesting thing is, people don't know how to love like they think they do.

...Besides...seeking love OUTSIDE the self...will only get you so far. You really have to look within.
 

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We may have a philosophical difference of opinion.

Love is ALWAYS the answer. The interesting thing is, people don't know how to love like they think they do.

...Besides...seeking love OUTSIDE the self...will only get you so far. You really have to look within.


We do have a philosophical difference, no amount of love is going to change your genetic markers and what you're predisposed to doing. There are alcoholics in my family and I don't drink as a result, but how is someone who comes from a family where people are prone to suicide supposed to love their way out of that?

Not everyone is running the same operating system upstairs, some people are just prone to killing themselves because they are miserable at the fact that they are alive (not those corny Emo kids either).
 

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We do have a philosophical difference, no amount of love is going to change your genetic markers and what you're predisposed to doing. There are alcoholics in my family and I don't drink as a result, but how is someone who comes from a family where people are prone to suicide supposed to love their way out of that?

Not everyone is running the same operating system upstairs, some people are just prone to killing themselves because they are miserable at the fact that they are alive (not those corny Emo kids either).


I just personally think those are excuses. Each one of us have what we need to overcome. The conditioning society has undergone doesn't help this fact be seen any easier, but it's there

Unfortunately I don't have any data backing my beliefs, just experience.
 

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I just personally think those are excuses. Each one of us have what we need to overcome. The conditioning society has undergone doesn't help this fact be seen any easier, but it's there

Unfortunately I don't have any data backing my beliefs, just experience.


They aren't excuses when they have legitimately found a genetic link for it -
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/10/111007113941.htm
Johns Hopkins Team Identifies Genetic Link To Attempted Suicide - 03/28/2011

People were killing themselves thousands of years ago, you can't blame it on society today when it's always been around :yeshrug: I've never been suicidal, but I'm not going to judge people who have killed themselves because I'm not in their head, what drives me for certain things may be driving them to kill themselves. What I do know is that no two brains work the same.
 

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They aren't excuses when they have legitimately found a genetic link for it -
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/10/111007113941.htm
Johns Hopkins Team Identifies Genetic Link To Attempted Suicide - 03/28/2011

People were killing themselves thousands of years ago, you can't blame it on society today when it's always been around :yeshrug: I've never been suicidal, but I'm not going to judge people who have killed themselves because I'm not in their head, what drives me for certain things may be driving them to kill themselves. What I do know is that no two brains work the same.

I believe anything that doesn't lead to a solution to a problem, is an excuse....

...And I'm not blaming it on society per se. Just saying, society doesn't help these days. The general lack of compassion is a breeding ground for negativity, which feeds a suicidal mind.
 
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