Is the Center is no longer the weakest position in the NBA?

[The_Third_Man]

Nah bruh Demarcus is a legit 5. He's damn near as tall as Drummond and i don't see no one calling him a pf. I don't know what Sac was doing his rookie year having him playing Pf shooting 15 foot j's and whatnot. Why would u not want a potential 25-15 type player whose a legit 6'11 with shoes on with a 7'5 wingspan to be anywhere but center.

True. Sac drafted T.Robinson this year, which means Demarcus will officially be a full-time 5.

thats how it is in the NBA. Most young centers start their careers as pfs then they move to the 5 once they get stronger and smarter.

Camby was a 4 early in his nba career. Duncan was a 4. KG was a 3.

 

[nieman]

True. Sac drafted T.Robinson this year, which means Demarcus will officially be a full-time 5.

thats how it is in the NBA. Most young centers start their careers as pfs then they move to the 5 once they get stronger and smarter.

Camby was a 4 early in his nba career. Duncan was a 4. KG was a 3.

Duncan was a 5 at Wake Forrest tho, and on ANY other team, would've been a 5. Camby, Nene, KG etcc only became 5s because they were the tallest.

 

[Mandizi]

KG became a 5 cause Ainge traded away Perkins and they ain't have anyone worth a damn to start at that spot.

 

[HiphopRelated]

How nikkas talmbout centers and I aint see Brook Lopez mentioned not once?

'cause the nikka could be outrebounded by pgs on many nights

 

[PTBG]

The SG has officially taken the spot as the worst position easily. Its kobe 1, Wade 2, and who gives a fukk after that. The Center position has Dwight and Bynum, than you others like Big Cuhz, Mark Gasol, Horford, Monroe, Noah, Pek, Big Al, Lopez, Favors, Kanter and a bunch of others too. KG at the 5 might just be the 3rd best center already. There is no clear cut number 3 best player at the 2 and I don't think anyone cares about anyone else after Bean and D-Wade.

 

[Reggie]

Tim Duncan is and has always been a CENTER. Even when Robinson was there he played in the low post while David was up top. And since Dave retired he still plays there and guards the opposing center every night. How is he not a center?

 

[Mandizi]

That's cool and all, but while D-Rob was still active, Duncan dominated the 4 spot. The greatest power forward ever.

 

[SubLyminalz]

shaq
hakeem
zo
mutumbo
ewing
the admiral


vs.

howard
hibbert
bynum
chandler
cousins
horford



not to mention most of the centers today are basically 4's playing center (duncan, kg, bosh)


i would say the sg position besides jordan was worse in the 90's then it is now, these soft ass centers today would get murdered in the 90's.

 

[DoubleClutch]

I agree to an extent. SG position is bad by Jordan/Kobe/Wade standards but Center position is just as bad by shaq/zo/hakeem/mutumbo/ewing standards. The centers today are getting better, but there aren't any likable/maretable dynamic superstar centers today other than Howard and people are even starting to hate him. Howard ain't even really THAT good either.

JAVALE MCGEE is a future superstar though

 

[Malta]

Boogie is moving up the list of my favorite players -

Michael Lee ‏@MrMichaelLee

Funny Select Team exchange in Las Vegas. DeMarcus Cousins to Anthony Davis: "Hey rook. Go get me a Gatorade!" AD curled lips & walked away

 

[HiphopRelated]

Boogie is moving up the list of my favorite players -

yep, I liked his comments on Colangelo too


Sam Amick
Sacramento C and Team USA Select team member DeMarcus Cousins, per his norm, didn't hold back today as he addressed the recent critical comments of Team USA chairman Jerry Colangelo, who had said Cousins needed to mature and wasn't helping his cause in the national program. Cousins just told reporters that he pursued Colangelo this afternoon to discuss his comments. It was, according to Cousins, the first time they had ever conversed.

COUSINS
"I actually just had a conversation with him...I asked him, 'How was I being immature?' He never really gave me an answer. He said it was just his opinion, and I told him that I'm just trying to come out and play hard. I'm not trying to get into any of that. I have respect for every veteran in here, and at the end of the day I'm really just trying to play hard.
"We all know the odds are against (the Select team) in this camp. Everybody knows that to even have a chance we've got to play even harder than we normally do. And I told that I'm just out here trying to play hard.

On their conversation...

"I've never spoken to him. I just went out of my way to ask. I wanted to know. I kind of took offense to it, because I really came in here trying to play hard. For him to say that, it kind of puts a step back in how I'm trying to grow...I know it's my reptuation, so I come in with the odds against me.

On the first day of camp that was so physical with the National team in a scrimmage...

"The first day, none of us expected it to be like that. All of us were a little messed up in the head. But each day, all of us have gotten better, so you kind of get used to it, you kind of accept it and you kind of find a way around it and that's what all of us has done.

On whether it diminishes his desire to be a part of the program...

"I'm not going to say (it's diminished his desire to be a part of the Team USA program). I'm going to say it's not what I expected, but at the end of the day I'm learning and I'm having fun. I'm bonding with my teammates. I'm bonding with the veterans here. It's a fun experience.

On whether he wishes Colangelo would have shared his opinion privately as opposed to publicly...

"It definitely bothered me, because I know I came in here and I'm busting my a** just to give my team a chance to even compete with these guys. So for him to go out and say that, I mean it was kind of messed up. Like I said, he has a right to his opinion.

 

[beenz]

I been sayin this for a minute that SG is the weakest position in the league currently. besides gordon and harden, there's really not too many up and coming SG's in the league.

 

[ALIAS]

lets break this down scientifically:

Tier 1 ("Superstars")
C - Dwight (superstar, top 4-5 player in the L)
SG - Kobe (superstar, top 7-8 player in the L)
advantage - Dwight is more dominant and younger

Tier 2 ("Should be a superstar, but injuries and general bytchassness limits them")
C - Bynum (star, avgs 19pts 12reb, young but knee issues)
SG - Wade (star, avgs 22pts, 5reb, 4asst, 30yrs old with knee issues)
advantage - draw (both are diva-bytches, with knee issues and star play)


Tier 3 ("Unnecessary Max Contract Guys")
C- Hibbert (all star, 13pts, 9reb, 2blcks )
Chandler (starter, DPOY, 11, 10, 1.5blks)
SG -
J. Johnson (all star, 19pts, 3reb, 4ast)
Ginobili (all star, 13pts, 3reb, 4ast)
Harden (6th man of the yr, 17pts, 4reb, 4ast)
Gordon (starter, 20pts, 3reb, 3ast)
advantage - SGs, overpaid but more productive than the Cs

Tier 4 ("Useful, but flawed")

Cs
Gasol (starter, 15, 9, 1.5blks )
Cousins (starter, future all star, 18pts, 11reb)
Bogut (starter, broken, 11pts, 8reb, 2blks)
McGee (retard, 11pts, 8reb, 2.2blks)

SG
K. Martin (starter, 17pts, nothing else)
Ray Allen
Jet
OJ Mayo
Vince
advantage - Centers are giving decent offense, defense, rebounding while the SGs are all

ALIAS Conclusion:

Centers are slightly stronger (because the top tiers have more impact than the lower tiers), mostly off the strength of Dwight + Bynum vs. Kobe + Wade

However, in Tier 3 (abv avg starter level players) there are more quality SGs than centers.

The only way to break the deadlock is to look at future potential. Centers like Cousins, A. Davis, M. Gasol, and R. Hibbert have higher upside than Harden + E. Gordon + OJ Mayo.

Centers by a hair

 

[yseJ]

lol at bynum and wade being a draw
wade has been an elite sg for years now. andrew had one career year and now its a "draw"

wade is likely to be HoF material and the only reason his numbers fell is playing with bron and bosh

seriously
what the fukk ?

 

[Whitty Hutton]

lol @ Wade being a tier 2 sg