Is the lack of new starpower a real concern or do we just have to give it time?

[Buggsy Mogues]

Most of the top stars in the 90s was 35 & up.

I don't think it's about age, but how long you've been around on TV.

Think about it -- Austin's run was 5 years. WM 14 to WM 19, and he was out.

5 years ago Cena main evented against Miz.

5 years before that he main evented against HHH.

Now he might main event again?

You gotta get new faces in there, people tired of the same shyt

 

[Golayitdown]

I don't think it's about age, but how long you've been around on TV.

Think about it -- Austin's run was 5 years. WM 14 to WM 19, and he was out.

5 years ago Cena main evented against Miz.

5 years before that he main evented against HHH.

Now he might main event again?

You gotta get new faces in there, people tired of the same shyt

Yep. I don't even think it's a problem with Cena himself being in the mix right now, but he's literally the exact same dude as in 05. Nothing has changed about him.

 

[BodeineBrazy]

Be real Undertaker, HHH, Batista, Mysterio, Show and some of these other guys don't belong in this discussion. If you're talking about BIG STARS that truly move the needle and can carry the company for the next decade, it's Rock and Austin, then Cena in the new era. Rest of these dudes were all supporting players.

Reason it's not happening now is WWE conditioned you to believe nobody was on Cena's level for the past 15 years. He always comes out on top and anyone who got close was brushed off to the side, so now that's why business falls when he's gone because fans believe Cena is the big star and nobody can touch him. They are finally starting to get guys over on him like AJ, but as great as he is he's not the kind of crossover superstar that can carry the company.

Also the company is so bad creatively right now, that guys who have talent aren't being used in interesting ways. Imagine if Cena stayed as the whitemeat bland guy he debuted as, instead of becoming the rapper gimmick. Nobody has interesting gimmicks or characters anymore.

More I watch of this Kenny Omega cat he might be the one

Undertaker is a superstar bro. Everyone knows him. He never did much outside of wrestling media wise. But he's a superstar.

My mother and grandmother know the Undertaker.

The rest I agree.

Ima keep my comment short.

AS LONG AS THERE ARE SCRIPTED PROMOS, THERE WILL BE NO STARS. That's it...

No writer is thinking up "Rudy Poo, Candy Ass", "or "Austin 3:16 just says..." or "That's the bottom line" or "20 inch pythons" or "Poon Tang Pie", "Have a Nice Day" "The Road Dogg Jesse James..." etc.


You give the guys freedom and run with what works.

you can't calculate what people will embrace. You can only feed them more of what they are into.

If the fans bringing signs of a particular thing, u make a shirt of that. Not confiscate the fukking sign.

They are proactively STOPPING PEOPLE FROM GETTING OVER. That's not on the talent.

WWE ARE fukkING IDIOTS MAN.

These new dudes probably are creative geniuses but they are neutered and the company seems to think you can manufacture crossover appeal. ITS IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!

New Day, and Enzo and Cass are over and will stay over because there characters are SELF DEFINED.

Sami can wrestle his ass off but he's the definition of CAW, change the channel on me wrestler.

 

[Buggsy Mogues]

Undertaker is a superstar bro. Everyone knows him. He never did much outside of wrestling media wise. But he's a superstar.

My mother and grandmother know the Undertaker.

Undertaker is only considered a legendary iconic superstar now based on his overall legacy and body of work, but at the time of his run he wasn't considered a major star on the level of Hogan/Rock/Austin. He was on top when WWF went through its leanest years ever.

When I read this thread I'm thinking who can be the new superstar to carry WWE the next 10 years. Basically, the next Hogan/Rock/Austin, Undertaker was never that level

 

[Roman Brady]

In order to start a NEW movement, you can't keep relying on OLD wrestlers.

Tell that to the wcw during 96

 

[NYChase718]

Yep. I don't even think it's a problem with Cena himself being in the mix right now, but he's literally the exact same dude as in 05. Nothing has changed about him.

At least rock nd austin made themself fresh. Even hogan.

Cena same run for 12 years.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

750 splash is still funny

 

[Silkk]

Most of the top stars in the 90s was 35 & up.

They also wrestled more than twice a year

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Tell that to the wcw during 96

96 they were pushing new stars; hall and nash were established but new

97 they were running main events with hogan/piper/flair/savage old news and guess what..? Wwf was running main events with austin/bret/hbk/taker/rock/hhh

Who won

 

[Silkk]

Its not like WWE hasn't had chances to make Superstars. They just always fukk it up when they get hot:

Ryback
Ziggler
Bad News Barrett(Took away the whole damn gimmick)
Bray
Alicia Fox
R-Truth
Del Rio

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

They also wrestled more than twice a year

A lot of those stars are even older and have milage on them. Can't expect them to hold these youngsters`s hand 24/7.

 

[Silkk]

A lot of those stars are even older and have milage on them. Can't expect them to hold these youngsters`s hand 24/7.

What stars are you talking about?

 

[Golayitdown]

Its not like WWE hasn't had chances to make Superstars. They just always fukk it up when they get hot:

Ryback
Ziggler
Bad News Barrett(Took away the whole damn gimmick)
Bray
Alicia Fox
R-Truth
Del Rio

Even Ryder served them $$$$ on a silver platter. They didn't have to do shyt but print the merchandise and put him in a decent storyline to sustain his popularity.

 

[RammerJammer]

Its not like WWE hasn't had chances to make Superstars. They just always fukk it up when they get hot:

Ryback
Ziggler
Bad News Barrett(Took away the whole damn gimmick)
Bray
Alicia Fox
R-Truth
Del Rio

Ryback could've been big, Bray too but they never recovered from the Cena feuds

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

What stars are you talking about?

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